with the somali pier theas. so they're completely vulnerable but the authorities in kenya have shown very little competence in responding to these to preventing them and dealing with them when they happen. >> when you look at the mastermind of the garissa university attack where 147 people died tom, a bouncy a very big bounty has been put on his head there and they vrpt had success yet. what's lacking? >>. >> i think a lot of things are looking and one of it is is they can't control their border and there are safe houses within kenya where al shabaab members have been down and the so-called mastermind as jonathan will tell you it doesn't take much of a mastermind to hand machine guns to four people and a couple of grenades and tearing them loose and jonathan and i can train a handful of people to do ten times that much damage in four hours. we overcredit these guys with being geniuses at terrorism when it's just a couple of people
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