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proper cause absolutely that should be a factor to weigh in. when police gave their account of what happened they didn't know there was a video table and there's also a study, ben talked about this kid -- police didn't think he was 12 years old. they thought he was closer to 20 or 21 than 12 years old. that speaks to a bigger problem. there was a study that came out in 2014 which talks about this that officers tend to see black suspects as older and more guilty than they are. so a 12-year-old boy looks like a 21-year-old man. someone who is holding a toy gun suddenly looks like his as going on a shooting spree. the officers may not have had bad intentions but their expectation, and as a consequence of that black people get killed for being young, black and outside, that itself is a fundamental problem. >> mark -- >> he wasn't killed baas he was young, black and outside.

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