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were horizontal at that point. could you tell there were two individuals, the same people? >> yes. >> okay. in terms of describing the individuals, are you able to describe their faces or anything or just clothing descriptions? >> going back to when they were vertical, i could tell the person on the bottom had a lighter skinned color. >> so it's so amazing with this witness -- and compare and contrast his demeanor with what we saw from rachel, one of the other big witnesses, rachel jeantel. and this witness is pain staking in his effort to be precise, who doesn't have a dog in the race. he's just there reporting the fact. appears to be unbiased. and he's called by the prosecution. yet, what he's supporting in his answers was entirely the defense narrative. if you listen to john good, we've got george zimmerman on his back. we've got trayvon raining down blows in this mma ground and

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