is debris exiting the aircraft. the debris that exits the aircraft recorded on aircraft, it's never been analyzed by the ntsb. that's what's new and we're trying to get them to reexamine, to show the american public what really happened in this tragedy. >> if that's really what you're trying to do, and i know that you have long sought, you know, a lot of answers from the ntsb, all you need to do is show the ntsb new evidence and they open up the case, but they're saying -- and i can quote this for you -- as required by ntsb regulation a petition for regulation must be based on discovery of new evidence. at this point the ntsb has not received a petition. why would you be doing a documentary and releasing it instead of going to the ntsb saying look at this incredible radar data we've got that hasn't been analyzed before, you need to get on it? >> well, actually, within about a half hour of this show airing, that petition that you described has been given to the ntsb. we have a receipt. they received that petition and
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