think it's a blockbuster case and i'm not sure who's going to win this one. >> so, when we say performing publicly, are we talking about for profit? if they are collecting already when it's in a movie or in some sort of on stage production, richard? we're not talking about when you're at the kitchen table or in your house and you're singing this song happy birthday and you've got an audience there. >> oh, you owe, fred. you owe. it's a different copyrights there. >> that's right. >> i think that you know, they want to argue it's a public domain and argue that the song has gone through machinations over the years. it's not the original song. i got to believe a couple million dollars a year in revenue based on happy birthday, that's pret tty amazing and the