effect and now here's eight cases at this moment coming forward that were all bottled up that have not been fully investigated. >> you know -- >> at this point, we're moving forward. >> some democrats would say the timing of this whistleblower leak is interesting. hillary clinton is thinking of running for president and now they're calling for a congressional investigation. what would you say to that? >> well, the point is that these are eight examples of malfesance and, in some cases, the conduct here is criminal. and the -- we have the facts that yes, indeed, investigations were open. and, yes, indeed, in the judgment of the inspector general's office, there was undue political interference. there was undue interference from political appointees. that isn't our judgment in congress. this is the judgment of the

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