[ inaudible question ]. >> good, solid. . improved every year he's been here. done a good job. >> i know tim had a chance to work with vinnie testaverde. did that weigh into the decision at all? >> haven't talked with him in a couple years. >> is he the second quarterback or will he come in and competing for the spot? >> it right now everybody is out there trying to learn the assignments and we'll let the competition go in training camp like we usually do. >> how much askdoes a player ha to learn coming into mini camp to adapt to the system? >> i don't know. >> is it different with every -- like you say sometimes it's different -- >> we've been in three weeks of otas. so whatever that is, that's what it is. a week of training camp is a