this had enormous chilling effect on both the folks that would come forward to report wrongdoing in that administration but also intended to suppress officials in the conduct of their duties. to this day we see folks being too scared to come forward, too scared to come out and speak up against the corruption they're witnessing. and i think that was the wholest. it undermines democracy, good order and governance. and i think it is absolutely important for me, the victim in this case, to attempt to hold these folks accountable. we have a very strong case. there is a great deal to believe that donald trump and his inner circle, including don jr., ska serena, hahn and rudy giuliani all conspired to retaliate against me, to attempt to silence me, and punish me for reporting wrongdoing. >> okay. let's talk specifically here.
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