barry bonds is the michael jordan of baseball. >> two quick points. it is apples and oranges was david ortiz was accused of and bonds and clemens. he had this mass test part of a leaked release. it was before the rules were in place. bonds and clemens are accused of being steroid factories. barry bonds in "game of shadows." it is a different thing. and clemens listed in the report page after page after page. in the 2000s, kids taking their lives using steroids. kids were watching baseball, pumping themselves full of performance-enhancing drugs. so it did have an impact there. but let's talk about aaron rodgers, happy sports subjects, right? >> yeah. >> aaron rodgers said his vaccine status is why people watch football. watch.