and this is maybe what makes us hopeful. >> i do understand these are early stages, but i also think it is important that people know what you are seeing. you are seeing people who have been infected or vaccinated, and they're just not very sick, which is exactly what you hope for with the vaccine in general. >> yes. >> we don't know over the next few weeks as the tests come back if maybe, maybe the omicron will find ways to evade the vaccine. as of now, it does seem to be offering some protection. that does seem to be key. based on what you're telling me, with mild to moderate cases, with the vaccinated people who have it with very mild cases, what is your assessment of how the world has reacted to the news coming out of south africa about the omicron variant? >> i think it was an overreaction. i do understand that there's a lot of mutation in this virus. i do understand that it might be much more fast spreading than