-- and that's about legitimacy. you have to believe things are free and fair and you have to have an equal voice. there are fundamental issues of democracy that you have to have consensus on. there should be checks and balances in the legislature that cou cou counteract the powers of the executive. they were fundamental to american values. you could argue that they're built in. it's the dna of america. but increasingly what we can see is that that faith in democracy and in the legitimacy of the government has been eroded, and the things you were talking about earlier, the way the former president is pushing back on the idea that this was a legitimate election, again, this has been going on since the november ballots were cast, since the courts went through it and said basically there was no fraud, and yet you get that constant drumbeat in media, and
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