any political motivation to what she was saying. and so the mood was a lot different after watching her. so the question now is how long duh it stay like that? would that mentality -- does it change with gordon sondland? is he someone people find believable? saying, yes he did speak with the president on occasion, but it wasn't that much. he keeps changing his story. that's what they're trying to navigate right now. but you saw their mood definitely change in between those two days. >> all right. thank you very much. stick around. we have many more questions for you. president trump is lashing out at yet another witness. jennifer williams testifies tomorrow. this comes after the president attacked ambassador yovanovitch while she was testifying to congress. witness intimidation, a phrase you're hearing democrats say. how much in is that? that's next.