and then the video and strategy as a whole. is there any evidence here? this is a 50-plus video that trump's words in that call are as potent as secretary keloland says they are? >> well, suddenly as we get closer to the presidential election, you will find the terrorist groups will also be following it. they will try and seize whatever opportunity they can for propaganda purposes. keep in mind that any individual is prominent in the american political process is going to feature, barack obama, president obama has appeared in the isis material. that doesn't mean he's been saying anything that's attracted attention. it's just designed to elicit the cycle of political reaction amongst supporters of terrorism. >> in that last debate, secretary clinton says isis was use tag video as a part of the