charge in perth, lieutenant chandler. we know weather. how would you describe how it's going? >> crews are out doing what they are supposed to do, like you said. we were challenged yesterday with a low cloud ceiling. >> i think a lot of people wonder just exactly how you conduct a search. we know it takes four hours to get out there and you have two hours to certainly the area. what exactly do you look for? >> anything out of the ordinary. most generally looking at the ocean, rather monotonous and pretty much the same. looks the same. anything not supposed to be out there generally stands out. looking for any kind of debris, anything that's not man made -- not natural that's man made is something that could be a clue. >> if this is the plane that is out there, are you confident