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evidence. there are really sound reasons for secrecy. >> but there's also another reason for it which was meant as a protection of civil liberties. the idea was, we don't want to give the executive, the king, the president, unlimited power to charge anyone he wants with a crime. so, we have this body which is a check, which says, you don't have to prove beyond reasonable doubt but you have to prove probable cause. >> that's great. but why secret? >> secret because sometimes they don't decide there is no crime. there is no -- nothing to ind t indict, so we don't want, the theory goes, we don't want to injure the reputation of people saying they're under investigation when it turns out they're not charged with anything at all. >> the protection being here, because danny, what you were saying, you protect witnesses who may want to come in and testify against an organized crime family and they're terrified and they themselves, if the organized crime family knew they were testifying might kill him or her, but you're

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