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talk about these primary battles where you have candidates trying to outtrump themselves. back to those focus groups you watch closely. republicans run a risk of getting outside of what people want to talk about, too, right? >> that's right. and so, look, they are sitting right there, as i said, tortured football metaphor, so close to the end zone but a fumble is realistic, especially if you do get overconfident, right, and you try to push the envelope too far. spend too much time talking to your base and having a really hard time pivoting back to where voters are. yes, they are frustrated. yes, they believed that they were maybe going to get a return to normal with a new administration. it hasn't come in the way or as quickly as they had expected. but that doesn't mean they want to go back to what we had for the previous four years, which, for them, was a lot of chaos. was a lot of instability. they're desperate for some sense of, you know, tamping down,

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