proxy for trump because they're scared to go after trump. so the trump 2.0 candidate, they could go after him kind of sad and tells you where they are in the race if they all have to punch up at vivek ramaswamy and elevate this guy nobody has really ever heard of until the debate. but go back to the mug shot for just a second. that is a face that we've seen from trump before. it is not that different actually from his official portrait. the portrait that hung in government buildings and post offices was the same face. that same glouerring trump face that is his look and what he wants people to see. but it does just kind of make clear how completely -- how bipolar our politics are and we're living in two different worlds where he could raise $7 million off that photo from his base and yet be totally fine giving joe biden's campaign ultimately an image to put on ads to remind people with a single image, this is an opponent who has been indicted four times. >> and the legal problems, we'll

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