everybody knows that's not true. it's a kind of conspiracy theory that trump has picked up, we're not sure from where. and zelensky, of course, knows this, but he has to avoid saying that directly to the united states president, because he's the united states president. i mean, and this is a profoundly corrupt situation. that is weirdly familiar to ukrainians, because it's the kind of thing that they've been trying to get out of their system in other words, they've been trying to get at this, you know, use of conspiracy theory in politics, the politicization of the legal system, all of that is something that ukrainians have been trying to persuade their leaders to change for a decade. >> what does this all look like from vladimir putin's perspective? >> so, look, this is exactly the kind of story that's wonderful for vladimir putin. putin's line, if you've watched russia moedia over the last several years, you will see over and over again an implication, a story -- okay, russia might be