background checks, denying reports he took universal background checks off the table in a lengthy call with the head of the nra yesterday. >> mr. president did you say you would not do background checks. >> i didn't say anything about that. we had a great talk with wayne yesterday. didn't say anything about that. we talked about concepts. wayne agrees things have to be done also. >> outfront now, dynamicic presidential candidate and senator from new york kirstin gillibrand. thank you for being here, senator. >> my pleasure. >> what do you make of the president -- the only best way to say is really being all over the ma on the issue of background checks. do you think that's intentional? >> i think he is beholden to the nra and doesn't have the guts to stand up to the nra. we have a real problem in washington with the greed and corruption that's at the heart of why it's so hard to get common sense things done. and it's why as a presidential candidate i run on publicly funded elections getting money out of politics making sure we