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fundamental evil that the republicans embraced for power. and you can't negotiate with evil. i mean, when john and i were republicans, this is one of the tenets republicans prided themselves on. don't negotiate with evil. it's situational ethics, all of those things. well, those values were right. it's just that republicans now have the opposite values. >> um, john, i want you to weigh in but stuart just said because corporate pressure. that's why mcconnell is doing. correct me if i am wrong, stuart. but is it becoming easier to speak out against trump? >> well, look, certainly, donations are one thing politicians respond to. also, the comfort of -- of other colleagues having your back. but of course, stuart is right. it should just come down to basic principle and he is also right about where the line is. it's would you vote for donald trump again just because he is a member of your party, which

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