now, whoopie gold berg was say even when you leave the issue of race that human beings can be nasty to other human beings. many of us are thinking in this case you didn't step away from race because people thought of jews as a different race of people. i think whoopi was thinking of all of us in america in 2022. it was kind of a slip. tell her it's a slip. why is it when somebody makes a mistake like that, even not talking about black people this time, she has to be excommunicated in this way. it's got to stop. i think she should not have been suspended. she should have been told she was wrong, maybe in colorful ways but this isn't necessary. >> especially after an apology and another conversation. and the whole chastising of her in the memo from someone who is an icon. and not that that -- that doesn't inoculate someone from having a point of view that is