treasury and others over to allies saying look, if we do this, if we impose these sanctions and don't wave them, this will hurt you as well as russia and we're going to have the following measures to help you out from our energy supplies and economic help if necessary but we're in this together because this is not the united states against russia. this is russia versus nato and the western world so to speak in terms of whether or not a country can have an autonomous sovereign nation that is free. that's the issue right now. president putin came back and sort of like the civil war said no, this is a case of northern aggression. this isn't a civil war. it's nato aggression. the fact is what has happened is putin now has 175,000 troops or will have on the boarder and dla threatening to invade and could do it pretty soon and so i think he's laid out his case. he has some issues that have some merit. we ought to listen to those and