donald j. trump back in 2015 but by people employed by him as security guards. and what their argument is although he was not present for the actual assault his rhetoric and his statements on the campaign trail and beyond essentially made it such that he would be able to almost say and give the green light to being able to assault somebody who was protesting. and so this is a case a little bit more tangentally related to a direct involvement by a former president of the united states or even a candidate donald trump. but i expect it would be in an observatory role in terms of him saying what he knew then, did he give the order? did he actually tell someone and instruct them to be violent? it'll probably a lot of times evolve around the first amendment and what he was to say. what did he know, what did he instruct and what did he actually see? >> phil, before we go i want to as it involves our breaking