>> the indictments were an avalanche of charges. and it was just a massive document and it looked like a death blow to the institute. >> the government went just nuts or something, you know? i guess they just threw everything in and hoped something would stick. >> if you add up the time served for each of those counts, it comes to 353 years for me, which is longer than jeffrey dahmer was sentenced to prison for. and he killed and ate like 13 people. >> you know, it doesn't make sense. a lot of these accusations are things we know were legal. >> 38 felony indictments for collecting fossils? >> it totally blew me apart. i'm used to fixing things, and this was unfixable. it was so stupid. >> once you start to understand the indictments, basically this is what they said. pretend we're in wyoming and we're standing in the middle of the prairie and let's assume for a moment that the fence is in the right place. you're standing on this side of the fence, the government says, right over there, on the other side of the fence, is this fabulous fossil.
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