>> the intensity reaction, while the court case was going on, really surprised me. there were people that i thought were quite reasonable people, who basically said things about black hills that just were not true. >> there's a difference between the academic perspective of fossil collecting and the commercial perspective. >> there are some people in this profession that really, truly believe that it is, there's something morally wrong with selling a fossil. >> i was indoctrinated as an undergrad, that if you don't have a ph.d, you have no right to a collect dinosaurs. and i heard about them. phi and peter larson collecting fossils and i was told, these are pirates! and i visited pete larson and i visited the black hills institute. and they weren't pirates at all. they had techniques they taught my crew. they were better than my crew. >> you have academias and these fights, and now here's these
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