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that's all i'm concerned about. i think it is time where god is separating the sheeps from the goats. >> reporter: what are you? >> i'm a goat because i ain't a sheep. i'm not doing what they tell me to do. i'm fighting against it. >> donie o'sullivan joins us now. do you think that the former president saying that he got the shot, although you said it was timid, nevertheless he did say it. do you think it convinced anyone? >> reporter: no, it didn't seem like that, anderson. i think that is something that trump knows. we know trump likes to take credit for things and he can in many respects take credit for the development of this vaccine, but he knows that so many in his base do not want to take this shot. it is a red line for them. and it's really remarkable to hear, you know, so many folks we've spoken to do not want to be as that woman described it a sheep. they don't want to take this vaccine. they view it as a political statement almost.

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