the baltimore jury pool. and every single one of those jurors was aware of the facts in this case as it was reported. and every single one of those jurors was subject to the curfew and forced by the mayor following the baltimore riots. it's very hard to find a jury pool who would have no information on this case. however, moving it outside of baltimore would likely not have alleviated or cured that particular knowledge because this is a case, kate, as you know, that everybody in the country is watching. it's such a grasping and thought-provoking case to figure out what's going to happen and how will it be dealt with? it's like they couldn't have found an impartial jury who had any less knowledge they did anywhere across the country. >> and to put an even finer point on it every day that they've been in there, those in the courtroom have said that you could hear the protests outside the courtroom from inside. so the jury not only, these jurors, they not only, as you