>> listen, it's another reminder that you have multiple factions in russia with their own armies in effect. wagner is not the only running militia there. gazprom has its own militia. one of the most notable comments from prigozhin, dmitri, was not just his direct challenge to putin's power, but he blew up putin's justification for war in ukraine. he said what they've been saying isn't twrue. this isn't a battle to denazify ukraine. how much has that damaged public support or just the justification for the war from putin's perspective? >> i'm not sure it matters that much because for the past nine months, prigozhin has been the guy fighting this war. he's been calling for more aggressive actions. he said this is now an existential war for russia. he think this was a part of his plan to try to undermine defense minister shoigu by saying they