they don't care what's on the ground that that artillery hits. that's area fire weapons. it's not precise. it means it covers a large area. and the russians, truthfully, in many conflicts in the recent past, have not cared that much about civilian casualties. so you're seeing not only a president in putin who is invading another country against international law, but i think you're going to see if there is an attack, and god help us if there is, that there will be multiple casualties in the civilian populations throughout ukraine wherever they strike. >> we have about 30 second left. one of the possible areas of attack would be along the southeastern coast, an amphibious attack. what would that look like? >> imagine the opening scene, if people have seen the movie "saving private ryan." it would look a lock like that, except you would not only have the amphibious assault ships. they have six ships down there already that can deliver troops, but it would also have overhead