leading. a continuing conspiracy to undermine the united states of america. >> gloria, after the deposition by the committee of the former national security adviser to pence, keith kellogg, told reporters this evening, quote, nothing's been said that hasn't been reported. what does it say to you that general kellogg is basically downplaying his testimony? >> yeah, i think -- i think he is. i think he wants to. he is cooperating and, look, this is a man whose national security adviser to mike pence. also, before, had worked for donald trump. also, was in the white house on january 6th. um, this is a man as ryan nobles pointed out, who is kind of a bridge between the pence folks and the trump folks. and there is a problem between those -- those two folks, and so i think kellogg going in there, volunteering information, um, in a what seemed to be kind of a friendly environment. although we really -- we really don't know because we're not inside the room.
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