i think the point president obama made was good that we can't just rely on our democracy existing without doing anything to protect it and when people put their short term political interests over what is best for our country, john, chaos ensues and if this happened anywhere else in the world, the united states would normally be ones to put their finger up and say that's not a democracy. you can't condone an insurrection and pretend an election wasn't fair when certified by everybody including the vice president of the united states. so when that starts to happen and short term political interest, trump what is good for our country a crisis ensues. >> the former president essentially said when you look at this embrace of the big lie by many in the republican party and using that lie to restrict people's ability to vote, he's worried about democracy. you know, i wonder how you think -- >> i -- >> go ahead. >> i want to interrupt you to say we have 47 states in our
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