the fact. >> it does seem that's some of the argument that some of the witnesses made, which is like i didn't understand that burisma -- burisma is the bidens. and it wasn't until later i came to that realiztion. which, you know, for some -- ambassador sondland, granted, is not a career public official. but he is a capable person who has a computer trm nall. >> yeah, i mean, i think it's strains credibility to believe he didn't ask questions, look it up, there is no reason -- there is no reason why if it really was about corruption you would be talking about corruption in general. once you name a specific company, the idea he wouldn't have investigated that and wanted to understand -- he testified today he spent hours, countless calls, meetings conversations with the president working on this in an effort to get the money to ukraine and get the meeting. and he is deeply invested in it. in my view sondland has given what he has to give us because there are other witnesses who