childhood trauma, how the -- i never really realized until the last, you know, ten years of my life or so how much the stuff that happens in childhood, it never goes away. >> never. >> it's all -- everything is based on that. they said the first two years of your life as a kid are the most important because that's how things are formed. but sexuality, everything -- it all comes from childhood or it's all patterns we're playing over and over, and it seems in your case particularly true. >> and not only that, i knew as a father, if i'm playing the same patterns over, well, then i'm not doing a service to my children. i'm doing a great disservice if i'm not fully in the moment and i'm not really understanding what it is i'm trying to present as a father. >> the fact you didn't even realize you had gone into radio at least in part because your dad was in radio. >> no, i was angry when people would say that to me. i would say i didn't go into radio because of my father.