investigators. they are still looking at all the things that we are sitting around discussing are things that they are sitting around discussing. >> yeah. i would say the most significant thing, though, is that what law enforcement officials tell me is that if this was terrorism, this is a completely new paradigm. this is something that they've never seen before. there was no chatter leading up to it, no claim of responsibility now. they scrubbed the flight manifest. they looked at all these people as hard as they could. and they've they really haven't found anything. so they say, look, if this is terrorism we've just never seen anything like this before. so that's why i think the u.s. has sort of been on the outside looking in on the investigation in malaysia. because if it was terrorism, i think the u.s. would be able to sort of force its way in because they have this expertise on this issue. but otherwise, as we've seen so far they're still not very involved. >> michael schmidt, good to have you on the program as always. mary schiavo as well. captain abend is going to stick around and he'll be joined by