Day, sports fans. We have a full hour to figure out what the hell is going on, including what a ban of muslims entering the United States might mean for Donald Trumps candidacy. This morning, as is his wand, he called some Television Shows to is his wand, he called some Television Shows to defend his plan. You are increasingly being compared to hitler. Does that bother you at all . I am more like fdr. He called on a ban on germans. I am not proposing internment camps. President ialook at proclamations. This is not internment. We are not talking about japanese camps, not at all. But we have a very serious problem and its getting worse. We will have more World Trade Centers and bigger than the World Trade Center if we dont toughen up and use our heads. We have people out there that want to do great construction destruction to our country. We have people out there who want our buildings to come down. They want our cities to be crushed. Our countrying in and many want to come from outside our country. Until we figure this out, we should have a ban. Its a very simple. The reaction to his proposal has been almost universally scathing. We will get to this in a minute, but first, josh earnest had this to say. The first thing a president does when he or she takes the office is to swear an oath to preserve, defend and protect the constitution of the United States and what donald trump said yesterday disqualifies him from serving as president. For republican candidates for president to stand by their play at to support mr. Trump, that in to of itself pledged support mr. Trump, that in and of itself is disqualifying. Disqualifying. We have heard than in ca ands unciationsd we have heard people denouncing trump after every time he has said these things. Is he in a stronger or weaker position . Mark he is in a weaker position to be president. He walked it back and suggested shortterm. Worsteve this will be at a wash and a little bit of a positive. His chances ofs being president because, again, this is a position that is out of step with mainstream thought and american tradition. To be announced by dick cheney forpaul ryan, this is bad him if he wants to be president. Has said temporary, but he has not given any timeframe, two weeks, two months, two years. But he says we have to get our arm around the problem. At this moment, the time is indefinite. I could not agree more with the notion that this is a file thing to suggest, genuinely vile. Across this country, we have Muslim Americans who run major corporations, contribute to the armed forces, have relatives who live abroad, who live in the middle east, who live all over the world. Those people now, under the trump a proposal, would be banned from entering the United States for no reason whatsoever. Be on the constitutionality, a plays on an atmosphere of fear and a climate of uncertainty. It plays to the worst instincts should have and it be denounced. It has been denounced. I think youre right. Inont think it hurts him the nomination. I thought it would be hard for him to become president. Now i think it is impossible. The republican response was hard, fast, and furious. I dont think he is serious. We are living in serious times. We need real leadership. Fight against islamic terrorism, we have to maintain our common sense. He is a race baiting, xena phobic, religious xena phobic who does notot represent my party. You know how you make America Great again . Tell donald trump to go to hell. I think his overreaction is as dangerous as Barack Obamas under reaction. He is saying lets trample the by having a religious test. I dont think we need a religious test, but i do think we need to posit on immigration from the middle east. Ause on immigration from the middle east. I like donald trump. A lot of friends having purged me to criticize and attacked donald trump. Me to encouraged criticize and attacked donald trump. I am not interested in doing that. The threat we are facing is islamic terrorism. Its why i have introduced legislation on suspending refugees from countries where isis or al qaeda controls us is that controls a substantial territory because that is the threat we are facing. John i want to read you the poll. S from a new donald trump, 30 2 . Marco rubio second at 14 . 8 ,s christie 9 , Jeb Bush Ted Cruz 6 , ben carson and Carly Fiorina 5 . Another poll showing donald trump with a substantial lead. Mark just to make the point that these polls were taken before his statement. Cruz you see ted consistently says he disagrees, its not his policy, but he doesnt announce them. Candidater major denounced him. The person who has been moral tasteerms of and decency is ted cruz, but i think he benefits the most because it makes his noxious proposal on the matter look reasonable. Tom still going to speak your fears but i am doing it with a targeted, reasonable, policy driven way. I think his proposal is not as bad as Donald Trumps by any means, but bad. In the competition for that pool of voters, cruz looks reasonable. Last night, trump went after Chris Christie. He put cruz on morning and said hey, if you come after me, im going to go after you. Crews benefits for a variety of ted cruz benefits for a variety of reasons. He is not getting Incredible National coverage. But he is building a base and raising money. Trump is blocking anyone else from growing. Trump falls,at if ted cruz is poised to take over his supporters. Mark you cant believe ted cruz would say i am the electable version of donald trump. Are those of you who think he is a huge general election albatross, here is a guy who is in league with him but looks more reasonable, and could be more electable, although, again, i think he would have huge problems in the fall. More reaction to trump when we come back. John last night, a big question we had on this program was how members of the republican establishment not running for president would react. Today, we got our answers. Previouslyre hesitant to jump on trump have been pushed over the edge. A freedom of religion is founding principle of this country. Normally, i do not comment on what is going on in the president ial election. I will take exception today. This is not conservatism. What was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for, and more importantly, it is not what this country stands for. I am not concerned about lasting damage to the party. I am concerned about standing up for our countrys principles. I think it is incumbent upon leaders of our party to stand up and defend what conservatism is and what the Republican Party stands for. Me first say that would be completely inconsistent with american values, and second, a greatllah of jordan friend and ally of ours would presumably not be able to come to the United States, or the president of afghanistan, a great friend and ally of ours, would not be able to come to the United States. This suggestion is totally inconsistent with american values. Also, rents previous reince previous said we need to take on terrorism, but not at the expense of our values. The republican establishment has wanted to stop donald trump four months. Are they in a better position to do that on the basis of this story, and if so, how . In a betterre not position except that the mind has been focused. While privately people like paul ryan and Mitch Mcconnell have been watching this closely, particularly on the senate side, their mind is focused. They realize trump could do and say things like this in the general election if he were the nominee. I think they are going to be looking now more than ever for an opportunity to rally around the establishment candidate. Whoever comes out of New Hampshire looking like they can stop trump, i think they are going to try to quickly anoint. It has been believed for a long time that the establishment has wanted to treat him with kid gloves because if they didnt he would run as an independent. Mark or it would backfire. John today the establishment basically said in enough. Not thet i have to say, entire establishment, number one. Number two, they didnt call for him to leave the race. John they went further than they have gone before. Mark to no effect. Think a lot of people had views about how trump could drag the party down. This kind of thing makes you think you know what . Maybe its worth it. Even if he was an independent that would be better than having him be the nominee. A guy who can say stuff like this would be a disaster. Mark there is no political forecast on the program today because we asked our political to take on the fundamentally fatiguing task of listening to a lot of talk radio and watching a lot of news and trying to figure out what was going on on the trump story. What he found was that the sense level and focus was a lot lower than elsewhere in the media world. Sean hannity and Rush Limbaugh were not super negative about trump to say the least. And you have people like laura ingram absolutely celebrating what he did. Mark its her birthday. Well trump fared perfectly there and with the grassroots. We all know that the conservative Media Echo Chamber is powerful. We dont actually understand its power in any meaningful way. It seems to me that if this does not bring forth a defection of that part of the base echo chamber, nothing will. Whether you call it a stranglehold, hammerlock, or whatever. The and the paradoxes, more outrageous things he says, the more vociferously he will beat announced by the New York Times Editorial Board and liberal commentators, which makes it impossible, and instinctively, the tribe thing kicks in. They are coming after our front runner . We are going to circle the wagons. Rupert murdoch tweeted about trump in a way that was not all that critical. I think people underestimate that trump stood up to fox and still won the fox primary. Mark its kind of like how anything john its kind of like hell anything barack obama is four, republicans are going to be against. Say is of talk radio cannot be on josh earnests side. I have got to be with trump. All thee question i get time is is trump a genius. Is there a method to the madness or is it actually ad hoc and disorganized . I coming out with this proposal on paper and seemingly specific, and then an aide says it applies to everybody, i know if all of that was on purpose, but the sequence allowed him to dominate the news again. By suggesting this is a temporary thing that could only apply to some people, he has softened it enough that politically he could be in a good place. The base has circled around him. I dont suspect this is going to hurt him. Ultimately, what he is a genius at is that he has the courage to be improvisational. He says i will Say Something and get your reaction. Itits too hot, i will walk back. And im going to get so much coverage that my walk back will get almost as much coverage as the first thing. Up, more trump coming along with a new attack ad from jeb bushs super pac, after this. John and now some other news of the day, starting with an ad from the Jeb Bush Super pac right to rise. , appropriately, desk. When the attacks come here, the person behind this desk will have to protect your family. Will he be impulsive and reckless like donald trump . Will he have skipped crucial National Security hearings and devotes just to Campaign Like marco rubio . 27 admirals support jeb bush because he has the experience and knowledge to protect your family. So, since the formation of right to rise and the appointment of Michael Murphy to run it, it was expected to go negative at some point. Now it has. Startthey need to spending money in a way that donors will be happy with and this could shake things up. Its possible this is a good ad. Its a little confusing, attacking three people at once. Its a little complicated. But it does hit the theme jeb bush wants to hit, which is that he wants to be the last man standing. It highlights the flaws the jeb bush season his three rivals, and those are the three most likely nominees today. Dont think it is a particularly effective at. I dont think its going to move anybodys numbers. You cant take people out by going after three people. Its too indiscriminate. To me, its like a smoke signal or a telegram telling you its coming. It signals out here are the three guys jeb bush thinks are standing in his way of being the nominee and here are the basic lines of attack on each one of them. It gives you a roadmap to what murphy and his group are thinking. Will lookonly way it president ial is if it is reinforced by the media. It is going to take a jeb bush himself as well as major sarah gets from the campaign to reinforce whatever the paid an ad like this. In the bush world, what is wrong with trump . What is wrong with rubio . What is wrong with ted cruz . Bush himself could go out and talk about those three things. Pacs aligned with the super in saying this is how we are going to take these guys down. The problem is bush has made those criticisms against those guys and got nowhere. We will see how it works. John we brought up one poll earlier. Here is another one. Iowa democrats. Bernie clinton 45 , sanders at 33 , Martin Omalley at 6 , a pretty good showing for him. According to that poll, Bernie Sanders is well behind. The nationalk at number, i will just say the clinton and sanders people would both tell you the iowa race is closer than that poll shows. Nationally, quinton is well ahead. Clinton is well ahead. The survey also looked at some republican president ial candidates. Trump, rubio, and carson are all close to her. Gained Anderson Sanders gained. Not enough. But what to for the closing of the gap . What is responsible for the closing of the gap . There wasink artificial widening of the gap. Sanders has also been on the air in iowa for longer. Theink you are right that race is closer than the numbers suggest. , from Sanders Point of view, its the first good news hes had in a while. He has positive momentum Going Forward into a crucial stretch. Much time can you spend fundraising and other cities . How much time in other constituencies . He was in baltimore today and seem to do a good event with African American leaders. But man, i on the prize. If she beats him badly in iowa, this is probably over. Run, to be theng nominee, he has to build support and build support in minority communities. If i were him, go live in des moines. More we are going to talk about the right to rise super pac and donald trump when we come back. John welcome back. Joining us now is the Communications Director for the super pac right to rise, which supports jeb bush. Also, our contributor, who popped open the lid on right to rise with an interview in october with the super pac chief. You can read his story, very relevant to whats going on right now. So, we looked at the ad in the last segment. Just explain generally, why is your Group Running this ad at this time . Is a critical time for voters to start looking at the candidates records and their character, and their judgment, and i think when you look at Donald Trumps reckless comments, even before yesterday, which were just impulsive, repulsive, offensive, and reckless. Not announcing him. He doesnt pass the test either. We think there are a lot of important things to talk about when it comes to marco rubios record. Its a time when voters are trying to look for more information on all of these candidates and we want to make sure they are well informed so they can make the right choice for who is going to take on Hillary Clinton in the general election. Mark you heard me say that i thought going after three once may not be terribly effective. Tell me why i am wrong about that and why a shotgun blast as opposed to a rifle shot is the right ad. You may have noticed that there are a lot of candidates in the race for the republican nomination. Were not going to tell you what we are going to do down the road, but we do think its important to set the stage and talk about the character and the records of the three candidates we talk about in the ad, and then talk about jobs record, which we know to be the best record in the race. We think this is going to come down to a race about quality and we have the best qualified candidate in the race. Imagine that if some rubio supporters are persuaded that he doesnt have the experience, they could go to jeb afterward, what i find it hard to believe you are the second choice for many trump or ted cruz supporters in the country. If you look at donald trump, obviously, he is on the other spectrum from where jeb bush is. Jeb has the brains and the guts and he has the experience to be in the oval office, to make tough judgments, to take on isis, to make washington work better. Donald trump obviously doesnt have those skills. There are a lot of contrasts we could go about with each of race,candidates in the not just the three in the ad, but i think it is important to not only sets the stage and show what jebs attributes are, but also the records and characteristics of the other candidates. Is not a particularly scathing ad. I wonder if you think the public mood is such that they dont want to see a particularly scathing ad. There is no spooky music or jaws theme. Why is the tone as tepid as it is . Want to make sure voters are informed. Mark you are easing into the pool. The water is a little cold. I am not going to speculate on what we are going to do down the road. Mark jaws music. We did want to make sure that the voters had to the visual and doingtood what they were by voting for donald trump. Ovallizing him in the office, i think for most americans, is a very scary thought. Jeb has been endorsed by admirals, folks who have actually worn the uniform and know that he will be a strong commander in chief. Murphyour colleague, mr. , has done a lot of negative ads in his life. He has a history of taking people on. He has done a lot of positive ads for right to rise over the last few months, but we have all been kind of waiting for this moment when you decide to go negative. Will we see a positive ad for your group again or is it going to be all negative now . Running inis rotation with a positive spot about jebs plan to defeat isis. We have a lot of information out there for voters to go to to jebs record. We have given them a lot of information. We have talked about jebs plan Going Forward and how he is going to defeat isis and help disrupt washington. Now we think it is important that other candidates in the moreget a Little Information and scrutiny of their records before voters make a very important choice. All i will take that as negative all the time as a simplified version of that answer. We will continue to allow the d. C. Press corps to speculate what we are going to do. It is amusing to watch everyone speculate on it. We are going to sit back and enjoy that. Guys have had a lot of ads on the air this year and it guys have had a lot of ads on the air this year and it doesnt seem to have had much of an impact, favorable or negative. We think this is going to become a race to quality in the next six weeks and continue on past New Hampshire, that voters are going to start looking for serious candidates who can sit behind the desk in the oval office. What we have done in the months leading up to this was build a Foundation Talking about jebs and his conservative record in florida, which is completely unmatched. Going forward, we want to make sure everyone has the information they need to go into the voting booth. But we are using different mediums besides tv. We are using visual and a lot of different mediums. Think as voters becoming gauge , wend become engaged want to make sure they are getting as much information about all of the candidates in this race as possible. Paul, thanks very much. You bet. D ask you about what you just asked paul about. Let me ask you about what you just asked paul about. Has the quality of the product not been good or have paid Television Ads become ineffective . Candidates are trying to approach this question and they are becoming incredibly skeptical about the ability to move anything. Audiencebout the big for the debates. I think its an indicator of what is happening in the free media environment. Trump jokes about this. Why would he buy ads to run in between speeches . John the bush ads have run during a time of horrific Media Coverage of jeb bush. In thevery few good days media. To me, that overwhelms anything he might spend money on. How many times are they seeing jeb on cable, broadcast tv, digital, print . Millionhave spent 31. 7 dollars, right to rise, so far this year. It hasnt seemed to do much good. Is that wasted money . Make a were to suddenly comeback, will there be an argument that that was all a longterm investment on a slow burn . The super pac should have said we are giving this to Little Sisters of the poor in jebs name. That would have gotten some newspaper coverage. Murphy said as he has said throughout the year, we are not going to go after trump because we think this will be a twoperson race when the dust and bush. Tween rubio i asked paul the question about why are you going after ted cruz , i think some of it is covered to go after rubio and lump them into in with other people. Excellent point. Thanks for coming in. When we come back, more reaction to Donald Trumps proposal from muslim immigrants right after this. John joining us now is the standing alone, the american struggle for the soul of islam. Thank you for coming on the show. We have spoken about Donald Trumps proposal yesterday. I am curious about your reaction. I think donald trump should put his money where his mouth is and take care of hiss nest in the middle east and other places his business in the middle east and other places that involve getting funds from the saudi government, qatar, and other places that have exported the ideology of islam that puts us in this crisis today. Mark what is the record on that . How much business entanglement does trump have with those regimes . I am reading is that if on cut is looking at Hotel Business interests in qatar ivanka is looking at Hotel Business interests in qatar and saudi arabia. I am curious about the ties. , speakingdonald trump with you, and it is great to be with you, john, i am reminded of many years ago when life was much more innocent and we didnt xve this x essential essential threat of islamic extremism facing us. Im curious about how these ideologies came out of these. Ountries, causing these crises we have really been asleep as a country. Queried a time, much like American Companies were are at i feel like we a time, much like american were during the debate on the holocaust and various companies were involved in that horrible tragedy, a lot of companies are going to have to think deep and hard about their own Business Investments in regimes that are causing us so much crisis and so much trouble. Been a lot ofs discussion about how the Hispanic Community feels about donald trump and the comments he has made. Without overgeneralizing, how is the Muslim Community feeling about donald trump today . Butt is not monolithic, what has happened is, sadly, a lot of the muslim lobby, special Interest Groups inside of our own community, take these moments like this to seize on an opportunity to claim that this is a country that is antimuslim. That way. El i have grown up in america. I came at the age of four. I grew up in west virginia, not exactly most peoples idea of cosmopolitan culture, but i experienced the kind of tolerance and kindness that allowed me to make this place my home. We have, unfortunately, our folks that are campaigning. This is a crisis of identity for muslims. I think they are exploiting it. But there are muslims like myself and the courageous band of brothers and sisters i came together with last week and washington, d. C. We are calling ourselves the muslim reform movement. Is say are trying to do look, we have a problem. Creatingump is hysteria because we have had a failure to deal effectively with this issue of extremism. Own up to the problem, but we also want help from the leaders and policymakers who are sadly asleep at the wheel on these issues. John you were close today any perl, someone we are both friends with. Pakistan,ith him in where he was killed. You talk about there being no Political Correctness, how police were able to search mosques and other places to get to the bottom of what happened. We are now in a president ial campaign where Chris Christie and others argue that Political Correctness is getting in the way of confronting radical islamic terrorism. Do you think that is true . Is pc culture here a big problem . Absolutely. Just thinking about you and remembering danny, i think about the Police Reports and the files in hismen involved kidnapping and murder. On these pages are explicit ways the extremism bread in in the men who ed him. M and murder we lost our friend to the same ideology that now, 13 years later, confronts our country. I thought about danny as i was sitting here waiting to start this conversation. I thought what would danny want. E to be able to say to people i think it is simply, wake up. Stop with the Political Correctness. Sincerely withnd this problem. We have to be clear and honest about it. This movement we have created, we are explicitly calling out the islamist extremist interpretation. Saudi arabia and qatar are the greatest incubators of this the theology. Of this Khalid Sheikh mohammed who takes credit for killing our friend danny was indoctrinated by that same ideology. Those two young people in california, same ideology. But we still cannot call it by the name it should be called, and that is what i would urge the administration to do. Call it the ideology it is and, with effective strategies to come to a metal path and come up with Reasonable Solutions a middle path and come up with Reasonable Solutions and not extreme ideologies. Would be something productive for americans to do . I think stop with the Political Correctness. Stop worrying about offending anybody. There is an industry in saudi arabia that wants to stop us from having this conversation. They need to look into their own hearts about the kind of values they care about and see if that is the interpretation of the islamic prophets. I do not think it is. Fight it not just for muslims, but for our neighbors. Because as you know, everybody has a stake in this battle. John my old friend, think you for doing this. Standing alone, and american womans struggle for the soul of islam. If you can buy that, please do. With a greatest hits real of the donalds provocations. John if you were shocked shocked when you heard that donald trump once to stop muslims from coming to the United States, it wants to stop muslims from coming to the United States, you probably havent been listening to donald trump. To jog your memory, here are his greatest hits. Donald trump i have a great relationship with the blacks. I have always had a great relationship with the blacks. Paul a dean was paula dean was crucified. He has a grandmother in kenya who says he was born in a kenyan hospital. We have to look at it. Is it real . Is it proper . What is on it . I hope it checks out beautifully. If i were on the view, i would fire rosie. I would look at her fat ugly face and say rosie, you are fired. Retweeted that she is a quote to bimbo. Donald trump there was blood coming out of her eyes. Blood coming out of her wherever. Essentially, its caroline kennedy. I mean, give me a break. Take a shot at bush on twitter when he said bush has to like mexican illegals because of his wife. Mexico sends when its people, they are not sending their best. They are bringing drugs. They are bringing crime. Pists. Re ra some, i assume, are good people. Ing. Body is doing the rap who is doing the raping . Saying that black people are responsible for killing the most white people in the United States sites a bureau that does not exist. Donald trump i will apologize sometime in the future if i am ever wrong. John please check out bloombergpolitics. Com for our interview with loretta lynch. 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