Transcripts For BELARUSTV 20240703

Only he, and we have no idea about it. Its interesting how many problems he successfully solved over the course of three decades, about which we neither dream nor think. Would you like to know about this, just out of curiosity . And i would like to, but we will never know about it. Take this into account when assessing the role of the president in the history of sovereign belarus. My name is igor tur, this was my propaganda. Basenkov pyotr kharitonovich, participant in the great patriotic war, hero of the soviet union, senior sergeant, was born in the village of vylevo, now dobruzhsky district, gomel region, into a peasant family, during the great patriotic war fought with the invaders at stalingrad, on the course. Arc in belarus, the Baltic States, east prussia, germany. Mechanicdriver of the t34 tank, 326th tank battalion. On september 18, 1944, the tank crew, which included pyotr koritonovich khotenkov, repelled eight counterattacks by enemy tanks, destroying three tanks and one selfpropelled gun. Left alone. After the death of the remaining members of the tank crew, pyotr bosenkov did not stop the battle until reinforcements arrived. One of the streets of the workingclass village is named after pyotr kharitonovich kostyukovka, now the city limits of gomel. There is a memorial plaque on the house where he lived. Hello, so where is this all going . Today we have the right lineup to talk about this; well start by talking with sergei kurginyan, who is in contact with the studio. Sergey ivanovich, hello hello well, lets face it, these are the times when, choosing from dramatic events, you realize how many there are, and even somewhere you get lost where to start, so what process on the geopolitical map today do you consider to be decisive. From the point in terms of influence on the rest of the world, well, i just think that the geopolitical map in itself does not dictate anything, it dictates cultural processes, it dictates social processes, it dictates certain megatrends in the development of technology, science and humans, the main trends are some anthropological ones, already in depending on them is built one way or another. Geopolitics, but if we talk simply about geopolitics itself, then there is nothing comparable to what is now happening on the russian side of this chessboard, multidimensional, apparently, yes, this such unusual chess, and some kind of, so to speak, fivesixdimensional chess, so, what happens on this very russian chessboard, separate from all the others, nothing else can compare, firstly, because russia is really the second, first, no matter the nuclear country, secondly, because russia is huge territorially, thirdly, because it was russia that in some sense challenged the west, and, as it were, all this together, and this the wests apparent inability to agree to russian proposals is escalation, russophobia and so on. Says that the main direction of a certain process, the main point of application, is russia, because the americans are absolutely not going to, i dont know, maybe there are crazy people, but somehow i dont see them on the political olympus the United States, modern ones to collide headon with china, exchange Major Nuclear strikes and either destroy china there and declare its hegemony. Or this china will destroy them, there are no such people, there have never been any in the United States, there is a desire to do completely different, there is a desire from different sides to somehow outline this china, yes, and one of the main sides is russian, because the border is very long, because russia is able to greatly help china with Raw Materials and at the same time with military highs. They say that first we need to eat russia, and then start working with china, at the same time we need to try after russia, or before it, this is a difficult question, to eat iran and block it. China from afghanistan, iran, iraq, from there, try come to an agreement with india, strengthen japan, come to an agreement with chinas competitors in southeast asia, create this ring around china, destabilize china by all possible means, there are uyghurs, radical islam in general, all of tibet, everything else, after that, undermining all of this by arranging that something like. Israeli attacks, on the one hand we hear tough statements from tehran, but on the other hand we remember very well how in similar situations earlier, the deeds of the iranian leadership were much calmer than words, this is how you see the possible development of events now, taking into account that in the same scheme that you said, this, well, lets say, the board, also has a decisive importance, yeah, so you supported my idea that it is no longer a great chess game board. Boards connected into some kind of multidimensional structure, well, that means what is happening on this iranian board, i am sure that the leadership that now exists, the United States, and this leadership remembers too well the tragedy of iran and the iraq war, and does not want to draw your people into a very largescale bloodshed. This leadership will not do this. In addition, it has completely mastered certain principles and works. Under a false flag, to work against israel, he has his own proxy structures there, they are all listed, and by the way, they alone are already able to somehow deal with israel. I remind you that when america suddenly decided, after so to speak, criminal falsifications, which colin paolov, perhaps not the worst american politician, was assigned to carry out, but he would get involved. Into this criminal adventure drawn into it headlong, yes, the famous test tube, who were shaken, that we all know, it doesnt matter, all this later turned out to be a bluff, but thats not what i want to say, iran categorically does not want war, but some crazy people who dont know what they think, probably hope, that if something happens, he will be able to drag america into a war with iran. Which is extremely doubtful, these crazy people want iran to be forced to strike israel, and iran is doing everything imaginable and unthinkable, even losing part of its authority in the islamic world, just for this not to allow this to happen, this is the situation now, ukraine is now closer to us, then we continue this allegory, we say that there is another board, this time we are it. Usa, blinken at a meeting with kuleba said ukraine will become a member nato. Our goal is to help build a bridge to this. But we remember that one of the reasons for isvo is precisely kievs movement into the alliance. And in terms of threat, does it really matter for russia in what configuration ukraine will join nato . Obviously it doesnt. It turns out that the United States is simply condemning the ukrainians. Will fight with the west, in particular with europe. Everyone begins to say this in unison, there is no one who has not noted this. I mean the media, politicians, ideologists and everything else. I will never believe that there could be a choir that is being conducted by me. A choir can only exist when it is conducted. And this. Does not mean that the russians want to fight with europe, president putin has said a lot about this, and hes not the only one, everyone, and its clear that they dont want to, but its not clear to the naked eye that theyre not going to do it at all, yes, they could deal with it ukraine, yes, and this is still a problem for 50 years, even if you enter the entire territory there, which is not at all as easy as someone thought, then you need to deal with this territory, but its just not enough now to get somewhere else to the Baltic States, but it will be great fun, the russians dont want it, everyone says that the russians will be there, this means that those who say will drag the russians into this, bring it to a situation where it will be impossible to hang around, this is the first, second, well, it would be nice if they just said that, but they also. They raise military budgets, europe raises military budgets, europe comes out of this state of military semisubjectivity, it begins to swing. Third, as soon as europe swings in a military vein, who will these military men be, what will be the ideologies, what will happen, our entire army will be sent, as it were, the European Army will be saturated. They are clashing with ukrainian nazism everywhere, you should be most interested in how this is happening in the Baltic States and poland, which means they will be mobilizing at the same time, then a simple question arises we move on to the playing field, and they are already talking about reservists, that there are 400,000 reservists there, there are so many of them, they need to be activated, that is, they are preparing for an army of three million in general. Than its absence for russia and us, believe me, because when nato tramples, it will trample straight into a nuclear war, a big one, and there are few willing ones, this is the fifth article and everything else. And if there is no fifth article and europe can do it separately, yes, then europe will also be forced to do this, like russia, then there will be an exchange of nuclear blows, and this is the longedfor american plan, the americans, when everyone says whether they want to deal with russia or china, they first of all want to deal with europe, they are afraid of everything in the world. Russianeuropean, specifically germanrussian union, because it puts them in the most vulnerable position in terms of hegemony. And we will continue with the guests in this studio, what the enemy is preparing for us, more on that in a couple of minutes. We continue with vadim gigin. Greetings , dear guests. Will understand this way, i think so the scenario cannot be ruled out, but we also need to think about the fact that they failed the Election Campaign in belarus and russia, and today they need to work it out somehow, so this is the tightening of the information agenda, it is happening because they need it, they failed or we just didnt give them the opportunity, yes, but they failed because we didnt give them that opportunity, when we say they failed, its a weaker position. Igor lutsky was elected to the council of the republic and i think he will take a worthy place there, Vladimir Borisovich headed the ministry of information all these years, our most ideological ministry, which was in charge of this very information war, the fact that now he is being appointed with a promotion is the recognition by the president of the success of our actions, we should not forget this, i think this is the analysis actions of the head of state, personnel appointments, now there will be, i think, a sufficient number of them, this also emphasizes the president s assessment of the success or less success of this or that direction, be it ideology, industry, agriculture, local politics and so on. And i think, in what context is this an important point . The president always makes such changes on the eve of important political campaigns. We are now holding an allbelarusian Peoples Assembly and are entering the president ial election cycle. In fact, we, the deputies of the house of representatives, well, probably already this year, well see how it goes, or next year we will have to appoint, well, i mean. A decision has to be made, a decision has to be made, elections will be Held Next Year anyway year, president ial and also an important moment, his first action as deputy head of the president ial administration, Vladimir Pertsov comes to our national library, where the congress of the Belarusian Republican Youth Union is taking place, communicates with young people, i listened to the messages that he conveyed literally that called from the president ial communication, what are the important points . Extremism, we must be prepared for this, and one more important point, i want to support vadim frantsich in terms of the fact that in fact, we are entering a new Election Campaign after the allbelarus Peoples Assembly, the west will never allow us to carry it out calmly, never in our lives. Earlier, but this is a very correct legal assessment of the events that are taking place in our region, this agreement has lost its force altogether, it was concluded in the conditions of the end of the cold war, when arose, well, i remember the words, you all remember, such an atmosphere arose as they said trust, the word detente was no longer used, but escalation, a single space from lisbon to vladivostok, now there is nothing of this, well, look, what is the point of this agreement, it limits the number of weapons. Belarus specifically falls under it, it seriously limits our actions, in principle, this allows our opponents during certain diplomatic contacts to somehow reproach us, so you are violating and so on, just imagine the situation in which independent belarus has found itself all these years , the agreement was signed by the soviet union, which means that the balts do not recognize their entry into the soviet union, they did not join this agreement. All these years, on our northern flank, in conditions when lithuania, latvia, estonia joined the aggressive nato bloc, at any moment, under any conditions, any group of troops could be deployed, imagine, that is, we. The kiev regime, and i take poland, the northwestern direction, we now have multiple superiority of the enemy there. Potentially, excuse the term, but i have to mention it, the president is leaving for the ashmyany direction, two brigades, the nineteenth mech, 120 antiaircraft missile, in in total there are up to 5,000 people, somewhere yes, but just to understand, the poles have one division, they are now deploying additionally, one division, it is more numerous than this number, why did they make such a fuss about our normal limited exercises, what is 5,000 man, yes, we keep our troops in combat readiness, but what should we do, south of the border . Will help, the west will attack us, under what condition, if he sees that he can win, if western analysts sit, look, watch, so, belarus will not respond, if we send in troops, nothing will happen, if we hit belarus tomorrow, nothing will happen, which means there was an attack tomorrow, the only way for there to be no war now is to be strong, thats it, there is no other way, so we are not threatening anyone. By suspending it now, i want to emphasize. That we are not withdrawing yet, but are suspending the operation of this agreement, moreover, if someone carefully looked at the comments of the ministry of defense on this issue, we are even fulfilling part of the obligations that we even assumed after the suspension of this agreement, why . Because we want peace, but on the other hand , we will do everything to ensure our national security, install the weapons that we consider necessary, create the army that we consider necessary, the goal is the same, not in. Large elite units, and Logistical Support personnel. The latter could play an Important Role by releasing their ukrainian colleagues for retraining for combat duties. Nato units could also take it. Myself training of new recruits. The words coincide with the fact that france agreed on a quota of 1,500 soldiers to be sent to ukraine. New information is emerging about the preparation of a military contingent in paris to be sent to ukraine. For these purposes, the command of the French Foreign legion in early march approved the composition of a Battalion Tactical Group of about 1,500 people. It is expected that in april the group will be brought to a state of full operational readiness. And i had to say, this is a division of the main directorate, which means the military there security department, the general directorate, its called, which is responsible there, they are specifically subordinate to him, they have a specific structure, socalled regiments, there is the thirteenth parachute dragoon regiment, it consists of several squadrons and companies, these are such special units, plus these are instructors because scholz said storm shadow rockets are launched using. What is the mission, again this is legalization, we know for sure that at the stage, for example, i will not take that far, the ukrainian counteroffensive, in fact, at the headquarters of zaluzhny, in the southern direction there were nato officers who coordinated all this, there are already many publications on this subject, polish generals received Ukrainian Military awards, this is the legalization of presence, what is one and a half, this is intelligence, there will be some units with a high degree of probability a foreign legion. There is no independence for europe, sending european troops to ukraine is also us pressure on the european elites, every day they demand that they help ukraine. A why is europe afraid of a fullscale war . Yes, europe itself is cracking. At the seams, if today macron or scholz, i, like vadim franzovich, are very actively communicating with european deputies and politicians who say, if today scholz, macron, figuratively speaking, with some diplomatic phrases declares direct war on russia, he will say, lets mobilize, send the army, they can carry him out with pitchforks, they have a million of their own problems, tens of millions of migrants, and its a fairy tale that muslims will go to fight against russia they hate them all there, they hate. They despise them, thats why europe, its in such a squeezed position, this, by the way, is very risky for us, whats risky is that they dont have sovereignty, its extremely risky that poland is not sovereign, germany is not sovereign , we dream about what, what lukashenko talks about all the time, he says listen, we dont need a prorussian, probelarusian president , make a proeuropean leader who thinks about europe, about polish people, a proslovak politician won in slovakia, there are people like that everywhere , is that prorussian no, he. When you finance terror and extremism, when you supply weapons, everything will come back, all this will return to europe, unfortunately, we dont want this, but this is all waiting, this is all waiting for them. At the olympics in paris this everything will show, it will let itself know, well, Public Opinion, oleg sergeevich, said correctly, there are 1500 more to say, about 15 this is a big question, just recently they conducted sociological surveys in the uk, 38 of british people under 40 are not going to categorically participate in hostilities, if a fullscale war, and 30 are not going to participate, even if there is an attack on great britain, and categorically, but they have been appointed to. There are already two countries that exactly correspond, these are finland, 80 are ready to participate in hostilities and estonia 66 . For some reason, poland has not yet entered this parade every day, which means every day iphone, every day cafe, every day siesta in italy, what kind of war, if we take it globally, europeans, i mean the indigenous population of europe, it is for real war, not ready for mobilization, but im not simplifying it. France about the fact that this is intelligence, but this is also a division of ukraine, which means that in fact ukraine is already being divided, it has already lost its subjectivity, the western regions do not need to be occupied because it is impossible if they divide ukraine and some piece is accepted into nato, in in this case, for the russian federation, the goal of the northern military district is one of the most important this is not ukraines entry into nato, it does nt matter what configuration ukraine is in, this is 100 unacceptable. Russia will never stop this way. Thoughts are red lines, so thats it this game of the west with russia is going along these red lines, but this is a very delicate question, russia is constantly being provoked into very tough actions, for example, the terrorist attack that took place, which we discussed in great detail, why it was done, to provoke russia into more tough actions and delay negotiations and generally make them impossible in any format, that is. Ukraine will be free, nothing has happened in these years, no democracy, no eu, no peace, no freedom, no nato, no damn thing, only war , blood, death, new, that means, agendas, here i am i analyzed it today. The law is relevant at this hour about mobilization in ukraine, listen, it means its crazy to read, its scary, but you know what struck me more today is not that everyone is being mobilized, the crooked, the lame, the sick, but what if you have money, it says so there, if you are the owner of enterprises, you dont even work there, and these are all ukrainian enterprises that are not stateowned for a long time, they all belong to oligarchs, then you are exempt from the agenda, i translate, they built, they built the country, yes, they spoke freely. There will be ukraine, in the end, if you have there is no money, go die for other peoples interests, and if you have money, live in peace, fill your pockets further in this war. Returning to the question that you raised, olga igorevna said that it would be problematic 15,000 to send Public Opinion there will be ignored, look at what lena berbok said last year or even the year before, we sometimes analyze their statement, then we forget that they they said, we are analyzing the following, it is endless. Germany, one of the leaders of the green party, once the most pacifist party. The next point is that you have a nato icon there , what is nato . So they say why are you afraid of natos expansion to the east, they, look, we have neither shells nor weapons, so the point is not in shells in weapons, but in the creation of a militarypolitical mechanism of dependence on the United States, when the ruling. All the strong politicians, orban, others, it is such that they cannot act otherwise, marine lepin, here the russians were recently taken aback, they call her prorussian there in france, she criticized russia in support ukraine, why cant it make other statements in the Current Conditions of this rabid, well, actually ideological totalitarianism . In fact, it opposed sending troops to france, but through to ukraine, french troops to ukraine, but rhetoric. Was, as it were, antirussian, that is, these are the rules of the game now in europe, when politicians, i emphasize again, go against the interests of their citizens, against the interests of their national ones, but they cannot ignore this indefinitely, because you understand, yes, the technology is manipulative western democracy is such that they can even channel public discontent as it suits them, but the higher this dissatisfaction with their policies, the more expensive political technologies are. This also needs to be understood, and of course, this dissatisfaction with the policies they are pursuing may reach a level where they will not be able to restrain it, so they are now in control, why the United States, by the way, to end the moment, as if a little pulled away, for the time being, when the primaries are going on, they dont seem to highlight no money, its not because they dont want it there, but they do, they are ready to give everything, because there are primaries, there are nominations of candidates, an unpopular war, rhetoric that blames russia for everything doesnt work in the usa, so they are up to for the time being they overloaded all this to ukraine, i assure you, some people here say, well, russia is specifically waiting for trumps election, if he wins, but if anyone in the russian leadership or among americanists thinks so, this is a deep mistake, as soon as its over elections, independence politics whoever wins may become even harsher; moreover, now in the usa the main topic is not even ukraine, but the middle east, palestine, israel. Does not allow him into politics, so i return to our elections, friends, its enough to let in those who oppose the foundations of the country in the president ial campaign, this should be a rule, we received immunity in 2020, we now had parliamentary elections , we did not have such parties, public organizations, or politicians in the president ial campaign forget anyone who wants to break the country should not be heard, heard, a special date this week is april 14, ninety nine. 25 years ago, the bombing of yugoslavia, a country burning under bombs , was publicly supported by the only leader Alexander Lukashenko, his plane departed for belgrade, despite the fact that no one gave guarantees of safety during the flight. Returning to minsk, the president said then that this is not only their war. We are absolutely convinced that today they are waging a war not only for themselves, not only for their land. If using historical parallels from history lessons is a test of strength. Serbia, and this is the same one, the president said everything, this is the same sample of the feast, that is , look, i also thought, studied, i once wrote a thesis on balkan topics, i thought why they didnt like yugoslavia, yugoslavia was an absolutely prowestern country, tito was friends with hollywood actors, at the same time western Intelligence Services sponsored ustashe, croatian fascists, terrorists who killed yugoslav diplomats there, hijacked planes, carried out explosions, and so on. Germany has become concrete, here is helmud kohl, the unifier of germany, genscher, the vicechancellor, yes, they became the gravediggers of yugoslavia in the nineties, of course, this is the policy of the United States, which wanted to establish its control everywhere, but i would like to go back, we can criticize them endlessly, of course, these are imperialists, they have their own vision, their own geopolitics, they write this, follow these strategies, sometimes they violate them, a question for us, 1999, i remember this time of turning point in public sentiment. Not serbia, there was still yugoslavia, yugoslavia into a union state had all the prerequisites for this in order to help, we would have been stronger now, but unfortunately, then in that moscow, liberal, prowestern, our president was not heard, and we are reaping now , including in the blood in ukraine, in this tragedy that is happening in the crisis, the fact that they did not hear the belarusian leader in 1999, and they did not hear him further, that is, vadim franovich is right. We are reaping the benefits in the middle east too, because that at one time the elites who actually betrayed the middle east, by the way, Alexander Lukashenko spoke about this in the state duma, speaking from the rostrum, yes, he came then and spoke about what you are doing in the middle east, what you are doing, it was a bomb, then, he then told the truth about it, that today we are reaping the benefits, just as we are reaping the benefits on the territory of ukraine because of the leadership of the ussr, who then betrayed the hell out of them. Ethnic conflicts are what weakens any region, and lets think about why the United States of america, great britain, not only they, so diligently support them, not only in europe, in the middle east, pitting shiites, sunnis, allawites, kurds, around russia in asia, how interested they are to immediately wander in africa. Remember, lukashenko always says forbid lord of belarus, language issue. But they wanted to play us off on the language issue, now they want to, in 2020 they wanted to, in 1994, in 1996, the supreme council, this treacherous one. So, today among the americans, kosovoserbia is a wonderful situation, smoldering conflict. When necessary, they put it out, when it is necessary to bring europe to its knees a little, again, that means, let it burn, the same thing in the middle east, how many times. They said that the palestinianisraeli conflict can be resolved by sitting down and solving it, but why solve it when it is necessary, with international instruments, it was a long time ago, who wanted, who really wanted , when necessary, we will make a war, then we will make money there, the same thing here, and today i want to warn our postsoviet republics, let them also remember, we do not interfere, but they must remember as soon as they have a peacemaker in the form of the west, which suddenly decided to reconcile armenia, azerbaijan, look. What is there in other asian republics with which we want to build normal relations, remember, they need one thing, a smoldering conflict for a decade, this is a Proven Management formula, and the United States will never give up on it, they have not worked very well for many decades, it effective, but since we returned to europe, im still a little would oppose vadim frantsevich, you said that they cannot, but i would say that sometimes they dont want to, National Interests are such a very complex, multicomponent thing, and today we see, on the one hand, vucics statement about the threat, about that the balkans can once again become a powder warming for europe, this is a phrase, it did not appear out of nowhere, but on the other hand, these are arms purchases in france, the hand is changing, what are we talking about, they are now buying rafales, new fighters where they can buy, they buy russian. Guys, everything is focused on finding a way to bring us down. Whatever relationship we have with you, i scolded you there, fired you from work and so on, you must be statesmen. Not me, not you personally mean nothing compared to what a sovereign, independent belarus means to us, we must protect it with our labor, blood, sweat and our own. Life. So, year twentyfour. What are our goals . I think the president was talking about the hour of truth, the kind of climactic moment that is coming for us, and it begins today in the twentyfourth year, and not, well, not not in the twentyfifth. And finally, today we have our country, our future, and therefore our children. We, unlike many very countries in the region. Well, first of all, sometimes i still read this nonsense again, when they write why Political Parties in belarus argue little among themselves, discuss little there, i will answer, it means that we argue and discuss normally, but we understand everything perfectly what they want to do with our country, they want it destroy, and we will put our own political programs above, there is no unity in the country and work for the good of the cause, and i also remember yesterdays meeting of the president dedicated to professionalism. And i understand one thing now at this time it is impossible to work carelessly, to approach official duties in such a way that i put on a tie and a suit, i came to work and made a report, just so that they would leave me behind. Not an important suit with a tie, not a beautiful picture, but the result, the efficiency of the work, what actually happened, you can see what is happening, and this concerns everyone in the country, well, unity, this is obvious to me, and no one except us, the belarusians , will think about us, only ourselves, i always remember this thought and will never forget it, there is an external threat, there was, there will be, but no one, except ourselves, he didnt destroy his country, thats 100 , they can help destroy it, so the most important thing. Understanding how strong you are from within, this is a key point in the economy, of course, this is a breakthrough, the president has done a tremendous amount and in reaching new markets, government responsibility is now required to stimulating our internal consumer market, why did they open the same First National one, we have something to sell, we have something to buy, we must stimulate the consumer activity of our citizens, ideologically we must strengthen our historical policy, our symbolism, what we are doing, thank you for participation in this conversation and finally, the planet is on fire, entire nations are losing their home and trying to find shelter thousands of kilometers from their homeland, we help everyone who asks for help and do everything to save fragile peace on this godgiven land, and we believe that we will preserve it, therefore we are building kindergartens, schools, clinics, hospitals, new industries, cultural, sports, shopping and entertainment centers, this is a text, messages from a capsule for posterity, which passed. We borrowed it from our descendants, but the fact that times are difficult, well, that means time chose us, thats all for today, happy