Are we going to pay the bills . Well talk to flybe staff, and passengers stuck in exeter and dublin. In our exclusive story today, two premier league clubs have agreed to pay damages to five victims of a paedophile football scout. Four of the victims came forward after an investigation on this programme in 2017. The clubs have not apologised. It beggars belief sometimes. If they have paid out financially, why wont they apologise . Its like they are sweeping it under the carpet like they did 30 years ago. There are calls for the boss of save the children to resign after a report said the charity had made serious failures in its handling of allegations of inappropriate behaviour surrounding senior staff. But Kevin Watkins is staying in thejob. It is absolutely clear from the Charity Commission report that we did not apply our own policies as effectively as we could and should have done at the time, and i do apologise deeply to the women who we re apologise deeply to the women who were affected. Hi. Welcome to the programme. Were live until 11 this morning. If you work for flybe if you are due to fly somewhere with flybe do let me know. Use the hashtag victoria live. Email victoria bbc. Co. Uk. Brenda said ten family members were due to fly from belfast to east midlands airport for a Family Gathering in june. Midlands airport for a Family Gathering injune. Im gutted for the staff and for us. Jude on twitter says, i was meant to travel via amsterdam with flybe with a bag full of clothes for refugee babies. Of course, we will get reaction to the fact that the company has gone bust and it features heavily in the news bulletin coming right now. British Airline Flybe has gone into administration, putting two thousand jobs at risk, after talks to secure a one hundred Million Pound government loan failed. Its website now advises customers to not travel to the airport unless they have arranged an alternative flight. The transport secretary said the coronavirus outbreak had contributed to the collapse, which was announced in the early hours of the morning. We did absolutely everything we could working with flybe to try and get the rescue packaging place, but a weak company on the coronavirus together have just proved to be too much for them. We will though and have been speaking to the airports and we will speak to them again to the regional places where they fly to and from and we are working with other airlines to try and make sure we get those roots filled just as quickly as possible. It will take some time to do. Englands top doctor has told mps theres now community it comes as a new report published today claims that the nhs in england doesnt have enough nurses. With the number of confirmed cases here rising to 90, officials are now warning that a uk epidemic is looking likely. California has declared a state of emergency after announcing its first death related to coronavirus, bringing the number of deaths in the us to ii. The victim was a 71 year old man who had Underlying Health conditions and had been on a cruise ship. As the virus continues to spread, authorities have confirmed more than 92,000 cases worldwide. The Charity Commission has criticised save the children for the way it handled claims of Sexual Misconduct against two former bosses. It accused the charity of mismanagement and of failing to report the allegations fully. Save the children has apologised and says it has made changes. The duke of cambridge has called for the uk and ireland to strengthen and protect their bond after brexit. Speaking in dublin, Prince William said the progress the two countries had made together should never be taken for granted. The comments were made as the prince and his wife continue a three day tour. The fa have said theyll investigate an incident in which the tottenham midfielder eric dier had to be restrained by stadium security to stop him confronting a fan at last nights fa cup match. Dier climbed over the seats at tottenhams stadium to get to the fan who had allegedly insulted him and his brother. Dier had to be pulled back by security during the altercation. It followed the row between his brother who was watching from the stands and the fan. Diers Managerjose Mourinho said he shouldnt have done it, but that he understood his playerss frustrations. It happened after tottenham lost on penalties to bottom of the table norwich in the fa cup. Pop star katy perry has revealed that she and her fiancee Orlando Bloom are expecting theirfirst child. The star announced her pregnancy in the video for her latest song, never worn white. Here she is revealing a baby bump in the final frames of the video. After the reveal, she tweeted, 0mg, so glad i dont have to suck it in anymore, or carry around a big purse. Thats the summary so far. Back to you, victoria. This programme has learnt that aston villa and leicester Football Clubs have agreed to pay damages to five victims of a paedophile football scout. Both premier league clubs have settled a civil case just weeks before it was due to be heard in the high court. The victims came forward as a result of an investigation by this programme in 2017. 0ur reporterjim reed has been following the case from the start hi,jim. Hi, jim. This is about a man called teddy langford, a football scout in the 1980s and you can see this grainy newspaper picture of him, the only photo weve got here on the top left. We think he was responsible for abusing dozens of boys back in the 1980s. He was convicted back in 2007, sent to prison for historical events as against four boys and was then released and he died in 2012. And he was linked to leicester and aston villa . Yes, he was a parttime scout for both. Back in 2017, more than three years ago we spoke to a man called tony brien, who went on to play for leicester and other clu bs, to play for leicester and other clubs, and he told us for the first time how he was abused back as a 12 year old. He said he needed a sperm sample so he could see if there was a gene in me to see if i could become a footballer. Our a footballer is gene . And being so young, at that time, you believed anything. After that interview on this programme, other peoples watched it and started coming forward and we can report that both clu bs, forward and we can report that both clubs, Leicester City and aston villa, have paid damages to a total of five victims of the scout. The terms have not been formally disclosed. But in this case we are not talking about life changing amounts of money. Definitely not. Also important to point out that this was settled quite a few days before we expected the case to go to the high court and under the terms of the settlement, neither club is accepting responsibility and nor has he the club issued a formal apology 01 even an he the club issued a formal apology or even an informal apology. There is another important aspect of this case. When we first spoke to mr brien three years ago, he told us he warned aston villa back when he was a teenager about the behaviour of this scout and he spoke to a man called Dave Richardson, the assistant manager of aston villa and to Graham Taylor, the manager and went on to manage england, and he fell through these conversations he was dissuaded in some way from taking it any further from going public will stop in his words, he felt he was told to almost sweep the matter under the carpet. And that is important because of the other alleged victims in the case. Thats right. Teddy langford was eventually scrapped sacked by aston villa because of his behaviour around young boys but we have seen documents that suggest that came much later, perhaps a year or even more after tony brien said he spoke to people at the club and at least two of the five victims in this recent case say they were abused after mr brien claims he came forward to raise the case. What are the people involved say about this now question our Graham Taylor, the manager at the time, he died suddenly in 2017 and the assistant manager Dave Richardson says it cannot recall a conversation with tony brien and denies he would have advised anyone to cover it up in some way 01 advised anyone to cover it up in some way or not to speak out. He said he did act very quickly when other parents raise their concerns. He said he didnt go to the police at the time because the parents didnt want him to take it any further and its important to point out that in this country there is no legal responsibility to report suspected abuse. There is in other countries but not this one. Mr richardson said he could not comment any further and he didnt think it was appropriate while the Football Association carried out the enquiry into historical abuse which is ongoing. I have been talking to tony and he gave his reaction to the decision to pay damages. I dont think ill ever draw a line underneath it, victoria. What happened to me 30 odd years ago will stay with me till the day i die. It helps, dont get me wrong, but it was never about money. It was about an acceptance of what happened to us all them years ago. I still think theyve got away lightly in certain terms where theyve not accepted responsibility or anything like that. So i suppose closure, no, it doesnt give closure, victoria. Have the clubs apologised to you . No. Nothing has been said. Nothing has been done. There hasnt been an announcement in the papers or on the press or anything like that. Thats probably the biggest disappointment of it all, because what happened them years ago and that was not on peoples watch in charge of Leicester City now, but it happened and we just want an acceptance that it actually happened. To say sorry isnt a big thing. Everybody makes mistakes. You know, saying sorry wont make things right, but it will help and itll help the other four lads as well. Why do you think they havent said sorry . Youd have to ask them that, victoria. I really dont. Why do you think . Its a long time ago, but it happened. Maybe things have moved on. Maybe they dont want to be associated with that sort of thing. I cant answer that question for Leicester City or aston villa, but id like to know why theyre not apologising and nothing, absolutely nothing from them. You know, i represented Leicester City Football Club. Ok, i wasnt their best player in the world but i represented them and they made money by selling me at the same time as well. So, you know, just if youre out there listening to anybody at leicester, id appeal to you to just say sorry and try and put it to bed. I mean, other clubs have. You know, Manchester City regarding barry bennell. Southhampton regarding bob higgins. Yeah, ive seen that. You know, it beggars belief sometimes that, you know, if theyve paid out financially, why wont they apologise . Its like theyre sweeping it under the carpet like they did 30 years ago when i tried to report it to Graham Taylor and Dave Richardson. Can you really be dealing with all the obscenities from the terraces . It feels like that. I wonder if you could remind our audience how being abused as a 12 year old boy by a scout. As youre playing football, a game that you absolutely love, how that impacts your life. Its impacted my life for a long, long time, victoria. Youre trying to put it to back your mind every time you go to sleep at night. I turned to drink. Drink helped me to sleep at night. Some of the managers probably lost patience with me for the amount that i drunk over the years. And it was the only thing that would actually put me to sleep and put it to the back of my mind. Im not proud of that. I never will be proud of that. You mentioned Dave Richardson, then. He was the assistant manager at the time at aston villa. You said you then mentioned it to Graham Taylor. Obviously, we know he died suddenly in 2017. Dave richardson has said he doesnt recall that conversation with you, but he did sack ted langford as a scout after being told about inappropriate behaviour by other parents. What message would you want to send to mr richardson . Come and meet me. Really . Come and meet me. Why . Cos i know ive told the truth. In a way, victoria, im really sorry, because i havent seen him for years. And Dave Richardson was like a god to me. I remember when i got picked for ireland, forjack charltons first squad and Dave Richardson actually broke the news to me. Give me a hug. David was like a god to me. But when i needed him, when i looked up to adults, i was let down. You mentioned that a couple of other players involved in the most recent court case would have been abused after you said you first came forward to warn aston villa. Had things been different, do you think the abuse of those other players could have been prevented . Almost definitely, if theyd have acted promptly. Like i say, victoria, they probably didnt know how to deal with it in them days. They said an investigation would be done, but, yes, they definitely should have done something about it. You know, all i know, victoria, that its a different era we live in now. If somebody came to me and i was involved with the Football Club and said, this is whats happened, id march him straight down to the Police Station and make a statement. Thats what i would do. Four other Young Players were also involved in this case and they all came forward after seeing you on this programme three years ago. And i understand that you have been talking to some of them. What have they told you . Theyve told me that they never want to go public. They never wanted to, because a long time has elapsed since it happened. But again, theyre in the same boat as me, victoria. They can never forget it. You know, like me, they dont like to speak about it, but i think theyre probably glad that its been settled. Was it the right decision to come on this programme . Definitely. Was it . Most definitely the right decision, victoria, yeah . There is still some people, victoria, who have got in contact with me who just dont want to come forward. So there are other alleged victims of ted langford out there . Yes, there is, yes. How many do you think there are . I couldnt put a number on it, victoria, to be honest with you. I know that at least two people have been in touch with me and said that they did see me on the programme, but they just didnt have the courage to come forward. Youve given evidence to the Football Association inquiry into historical sexual abuse, which is still ongoing. And we were expecting their findings over a year ago. But theres been a delay apparently because of legal issues involving a different abuse case. Its more than two years now since you gave evidence to that inquiry, a face to face interview with the legal team running it. How confident are you in that process, given the length of time its taking . Not very confident. I met with Clive Sheldon myself. Hes the qc. Yes, a gentleman. I cant understand why the report is taking so long to come out. I realise theres legal issues involved. I do realise that. But two and a half, three years ago, greg clarke set up this independent inquiry. I actually went to wembley, met greg clarke. Whos the head of the fa. Yeah. He was astonished at some of those things i told him that actually went on in the days. He said, tony, thats why i put an independent person in there, because i wouldnt have been able to deal with it. And he explained things to me. Greg clarke was absolutely brilliant. But what Clive Sheldon is doing, i dont know. What has changed for you since you spoke out . Its like the world was lifted off your shoulders that day i did the programme. Its not put a closure to it, victoria, but by speaking about it, by helping other people come forward, by knowing youre not the only one that it happened to. At one time, i always, thought i was the only one that it happened to. But how has it changed my life . I wouldnt say its changed my life but if i get an acceptance from Leicester City yes, this happened, it wasnt on our watch, but it happened, and were sorry it happened. Sorry doesnt take a lot to do. Thank you very much for coming on the programme again. Very nice to see you. Thank you, tony. Thank you, victoria. Jamie tweets, greatjournalism and so jamie tweets, greatjournalism and so brave of tony brien and you for your what young lads at the time we re your what young lads at the time were put through and what we may never know. Jim, have their clubs responded . This is how aston villa responded. They wish to express their deepest sympathies as they put it with all of those who have suffered abuse and the safeguarding standards are paramount importance and any reports will be investigated vigorously and as per Leicester City they have said. Thank you,jim. And our actionline website is bbc. Co. Uk actionline if you need help there are loads of organisations listed there who you can contact. Coming up later in the programme. There are calls for the boss of save the children to resign after a report said the charity had made serious failures in its handling of allegations of inappropriate behaviour against staff. A leading scientist tells this programme that the governments response to testing people suspected of having coronavirus isnt fast enough and that its not using all the resources available. Flybe is no more. Its gone bust, all of its planes are grounded, passengers are stranded and 2,000 jobs are at risk. The airline narrowly avoided collapsing in january and said a drop in bookings because of coronavirus had made the situation worse. If you have a flybe booking for today you are being told not to go to the airport. Transport secretary grant shapps said the government is working with other airlines to get passengers to where they need to be. We did absolutely everything we could working with flybe to try and get the rescue packaging place, but a weak company on the coronavirus together have just proved to be too much for them. We will though and have been speaking to the airports and we will speak to them again to the regional places where they fly to and from and we are working with other airlines to try and make sure we get those routes filled just as quickly as possible. It will take some time to do. Katherine densham is a Flight Attendant for flybe in exeter. Shes been with the company for 13 years ijust i just feel really sad. Just really sad. I take it from your outfit you are cabin crew . Yes, we are both cabin crew. How long have you worked for flybe . 13 years, like, straight out of college, really. Not sure what were going to do now. When did you first hear . Early hours of the morning. Quite a shock . Yeah, i thought wed be saved, but not this time. We were due to operate this morning. Wejust time. We were due to operate this morning. We just wanted to come time. We were due to operate this morning. Wejust wanted to come in and see everyone. I was going to london city. Do you know what you will do next . No idea. I dont know what to do to pay the bills. Really upsetting. Lets speak to some of those affected. David manners was meant to be flying to paris from exeter this morning with flybe. James dalton is stuck in dublin after having his flybe flight to cardiff cancelled. And tim jeans is the chair of newquay airport. Hes also a former managing director of monarch, which collapsed in 2017, leaving nearly 100,000 passengers stranded. I dont know, gentleman if hearing a flight i dont know, gentleman if hearing a Flight Attendant in tears saying she has no idea whats going to happen to herjob puts that into perspective. What you say . M to herjob puts that into perspective. What you say . It does. I used to be a former teacher and andi i used to be a former teacher and and i used to teach, so despite the fa ct and i used to teach, so despite the fact im disappointed for ourselves, iam fact im disappointed for ourselves, i am gutted for them as well. And what was your trip and when did you find out you were getting on the plane . I booked the trip as a surprise Christmas Present for my wife. Albeit we had heard rumours going around that there might be problems that flybe were having were not being resolved. We did not hear the loot news last night and we left home at 4am and it was only going through security that they said you cannot fly. So that was the first we knew. Particularly said on the tickets said air france, i naively thought wed be ok. What are you going to do instead . Thankfully i booked through a travel agent and she is working with atoll to see if ican get she is working with atoll to see if i can get some money back atol but the plan has been abandoned for the time being. James, you are stocking dublin . Yes, and im sure there are several hundred people stranded here, not just there are several hundred people stranded here, notjust from the uk but in dublin as well and id like to echo other peoples thoughts. Whilst we may be a bit inconvenienced, we are not one of the 2000 people who have lost their jobs and my heart goes out to them. Absolutely. In terms of you getting back to cardiff, what arrangements have you been able to make . Ive had to book another flight with another airline and book another hotel room, so airline and book another hotel room, soi airline and book another hotel room, so i will be out of pocket on that and hopefully we able to get my money back on the other sites, but id come out here quite regularly, two or three times a month and i know the Business People and i have people visiting from south wales and they will have to drive to bristol, an hourand a they will have to drive to bristol, an hour and a half, pay parking fees etc and i think its terrible for the Regional Airports that rely on those industry and that money coming in. To enable them to run properly, so in. To enable them to run properly, so it isa in. To enable them to run properly, so it is a real shame the region. Lets talk to tim on that point. You are the chair of newquay airport. How are you . Good morning. I am well. Cornwall, southampton, exeter, newquay. Flybe was absolutely vital for your part of the world. Yes, flybe worry pivotal operate of the airport you mention and for us here in newquay, 75 , and three quarters of the traffic were flybe flights and in particular the four times a day route up to heathrow which was a Public Service route, that was publicly subsidised and given to flybe to operate, so there is a pretty significant hole in our operation as from today. What would you expect the government to do, because the Prime Minister has talked a lot about levelling up the regions. What does he need to do to make sure you are not isolated as a result of the airline going bust . The alternatives, because of flybes disappearance are relatively few. There are simply no Regional Airlines left in the uk or europe that could reasonably take on the routes that flybe operated. Together with the government, we will be talking to other airlines, obviously, from today to look at the london route on the roots up to manchester and edinburgh to be restored as quickly as possible, but its a difficult task and it will not happen overnight. And if the government want to do anything, in my view, they should certainly look at the rate of air Passenger Duty on domestic flights as people taking a return domestic flight in the uk are paying £26 of tax and that is a heinous rate of tax to impose on this form of transport when no other form of transport pays any tax at all in that respect. So governments haveit all in that respect. So governments have it within their gift to make changes and i very much hope they will do. So you want them to scrap Passenger Duty or reduce it . No, i think what they should do is increase the range of Public Service obligation roots and that they should be exempt from air Passenger Duty. Many routes in scotland to the highlands and the islands are exempt from air Passenger Duty. Which means that the flight from newquay to heathrow was one of those Public Service routes, yes . Yes, thats right. So it didnt have air Passenger Duty which did not help flybe at all. On its own, it did not save the airline, but the profit margin was protected by the Public Service obligation agreement and unfortunately the Business Model that flybe operated was simply not sustainable in the company had been in trouble not just for months, but for years and certainly the shareholders, to an extent, must shoulder some of the blame because they did not make changes quick enough to ensure the airline was able to survive and survive in this current downturn caused in particular by the coronavirus outbreak and i hear what you say, but what about the roots from newquay and the rest of the country . What can they do now . Those routes that i mentioned from edinburgh and manchester we have to talk with the Airline Partners and there are six other Airlines Flying in and we have to talk to our partners. The responsibilities largely hours and im not expecting the government to give usa im not expecting the government to give us a bailout or to do anything other than to look at the rate of air Passenger Duty because that is a burden that it appears that this airline and others cannot sustain in the long term. Donna on Facebook Says are any other airlines going to cover the lost routes from newcastle . Cover the lost routes from newcastle . The train is ridiculously expensive to get to the south east via london or evenjust expensive to get to the south east via london or even just to expensive to get to the south east via london or evenjust to london, so via london or evenjust to london, so what happens . Claire has a son and he was working on the last flight and he was working on the last flight to aberdeen to get passengers to their destination and now he and the crew are stuck there and will have to make their own way back. He is or was a first officer with flybe and at the age of 22 has remained professional through the ordeal putting the passengers first. It is so putting the passengers first. It is so sad. This text says i was due to fly from belfast to southampton for my daughters 21st. I have had to rebook with easyjet for £208 and i have little chance of claiming my hundred and £115 ticket price as i foolishly paid direct to them using my debit card. It puts an additional two hours on the journey but my thoughts are primarily with all those who rely on flybe for employment. I hope you get back soon and cheaply. E. Coli to the government this morning to scrap air Passenger Duty and various other routes. We are going to hear about what your rights are if you have booked with flybe and a you need or may not be able to get your money back. We will speak to a woman who is getting married in two weeks and is worried her mum will not be able to come. Have to make that happen, definitely. The boss of save the children uk is facing a demand to resign after the charity was condemned for serious failures in its handling of allegations of inappropriate behaviour with a corrosive impact on its culture. Thats from a report today by the Charity Commission after a two year inquiry which found save the children guilty of mismanagement in the way it dealt with allegations against the charitys former chief executive Justin Forsyth and former director of policy brendan cox husband of the murdered labour mpjo cox. The current chief executive Kevin Watkins was a trustee when misconduct complaints were made in 2015. Justin forsyth apologised for his past behaviour but said he did not accept all the claims that had been made against him. Mr forsyth subsequently resigned from his role as Deputy Director of unicef, saying he did not want coverage of his past to damage the charities. Mr cox admitted he made mistakes and behaved in a way that caused some women hurt and offence while working for save the children. Mr cox resigned from the charity in september 2015 amid the allegations but at the time denied that was the reason he quit. He later resigned from two charities he had set up in his wifes memory. We asked both men for an interview today, but they werent available. We can now speak to alexia pepper de cairees a former save the children employee who became a whistle blower. Gwen hines executive director at save the children responsible for the charitys development and humanitarian programmes around the world. And Pauline Latham who is a conservative mp who sits on parliaments International Development committee. Gwen hines its really uncomfortable reading, isnt it . It is really uncomfortable reading and has a member of the leadership tea m and has a member of the Leadership Team we completely accept we got it wrong and we are so sorry team we completely accept we got it wrong and we are so sorry for what the women went through. It should not have happened that the charity made it worse in the way they handled it so we have done a huge amount of work since then. This was about things that happened in 2015. Ijoined two years ago and since then we have done an independent review and had an outside expert speaking to hundreds of our staff to understand what it felt like to work at save the children. What do you think is the worst thing in the report . The worst thing in the report . The worst thing in the report is what happened to the women and asa report is what happened to the women and as a women working in an organisation i cannot believe senior men acted that way and what really went wrong as the charity investigated those as informal concerns when they should have been investigated formally is that we are very clear. Any complaint against senior staff on a board member is investigated formally by an independent expert. We have tightened up the whistle blowing so we have a hotline people can phone and that is really important. You area and that is really important. You are a whistle blower. How do you respond . Good morning. It is a very important report. It is a very serious and damning report and it validates a lot of what i have been talking about for a very long time alongside the work that pauline and other mps have been doing. How do you feel being on the sofa this morning talking about the then trust the now chief exec when he could have been here himself . the now chief exec when he could have been here himself . I am here to talk as a member of the Leadership Team. We share responsibility and one of the things that has changed a lot as the bulk of the leadership tea m lot as the bulk of the Leadership Team and the board are women and i can speak for myself. I run the development and humanitarian programmes that we take this incredibly seriously. Kevin has been clear he regrets what happened. He was one of a number of trustees on the board at the time. The Charity Commission report is clear he was not one of those most closely involved and one of the things that went wrong is the billboard was not brought the picture. Is that enough for you . Not in terms of taking on the ceo role because what he is asking us and the public and the women involved is to trust that he is the person who is going to reform what is a very deeply rooted and across the sector wide problem of sexual harassment, exploitation and objectification of women by men. Why can Kevin Watkins not do that successfully . To be a successful trustee of such a Big Organisation it is inconceivable that he was a trustee for an organisation that this report says couldnt even get two letters to a ceo and hold them on their hr file. I am a trustee and the responsibilities are so clear cut. If you have an ethical mind and you do everything on paper all of your actions are driven by your values it is not possible to have the number of things described in this. It is untenable for that person to have the capacity to take on the transformation we are asking for. How do you respond to that . As i say, we have very clear that we accept responsibility for everything in the report. It is about the position of Kevin Watkins. He was a trustee. He was part of that board of trustees who are accountable, should be accountable, for the organisation. When the scandals were going on. He is now the top man for save the children in the uk and you can hear there is a lack of trust and faith in him taking the organisation forward. Kevin became ceo in 2016 and he has taken full responsibility for everything that happened. If he had he might have resigned. I do not think that is the right conclusion and if you read the report in detail it is not something the Charity Commission says that he should do. I have. Could he explain by £1000 was spent on lawyers, very aggressive legal threats written to media establishments . I did a lot of the media in 2018 and i know what those looked like and have it felt to have episodes of media but i was on removed from iplayer. Can Kevin Watkins explain why as ceo when he was in charge of that strategy of we re two was in charge of that strategy of were two statements wrote to the charity at the time saying this is an appropriate for an organisation talking about reflecting on its culture being on its culture being honest and transparent, he was ceo when that was happening, can he explain that . This is a second set of issues again we take responsibility for. Lawyers are used. I want to be clear that no stories were stopped but that is not the point. We should have stood back and looked at the wider picture especially of the women involved and what it meant to receive those legal letters. Who was the ceo in 2018. It was Kevin Watkins who was ceo. A lot of the board have changed since 2018. We have done a huge amount since then in terms of putting in place a whole code of conduct for the board. The story came up because of the need to movement and we know there was a very disgusting set of sexual behaviours and i came forward to see it is also happening in london and if you cannot have retribution and justice in london for behaviours we know in 2015 were very wrong, should not have been handled by personal friends of the ceo, to then expect we can safeguard women around the world and children and gay men and trans women and all those people that we have to be therefore, i do not think you can sit here and say that the person who was overseeing a media strategy that said it is not ok to air this in public because it will damage us as a charity, the thing this report does not describe as the women who have not spoken up, who do not even wa nt have not spoken up, who do not even want to be in contact with the charity. They talk to me and other women. This is why the work we did with doctor susanna shiel was so important. She spoke to people across the organisation to make sure everybody had the chance to come forward. I fully accept that some people would not have wanted to come forward and a lot of what we are trying to do now is build that trust from staff to feel they can come forwards. Pauline latham, thank you forwards. Pauline latham, thank you for your patience, member of the International Development committee and conservative mp. Kevin watkins has apologised unreservedly and accepts has apologised unreservedly and a cce pts a ll has apologised unreservedly and accepts all the findings from the Charity Commission report. Is that enough . No. It is a little bit late. He should have been doing stuff years ago when he was a trustee and i find it very difficult to believe that the Old Boys Club which was rife that not all know about what was going on, because fe didnt they certainly should have done, as trustees they should have known exactly what was happening and they should have put a stop to it and they didnt. They allowed it to continue and they tried to stop and suppress anything getting out because of the reputation of save the children. Do you accept the culture has changed since then . The charity has made a lot of progress. Yes. I hope it has. I hope the people who work for save the children feel complete trust in what is going on but i still feel that he is going on but i still feel that he is tainted with what went on before and it would be better to give more faith to the employees of save the children to have a clean break and to have somebody new in that role it can look at it completely afresh, now that there is very damning report has come out. Can you see that argument . Someone completely fresh, untainted by the scandals of the past. It is really important to remember what the report talks about in the incidents were occurred in 2012. Can you see Pauline Lathams argument that a brand new thrash face untainted by the scandals of the past may be better . As a Senior Leader myjob is to make sure we look after our staff today and kevin has been front and centre at leading the work to have the independent investigation. He committed to publishing it before we know what it was going to say. We do so much more with the staff and i knowjust how much he cares about this and how committed he is to then. I can only speakfor the committed he is to then. I can only speak for the two years i have been and what is described in the report is not the organisation i recognised today and if it were i totally would not stand for it. I am one of the Senior Leaders and i know very clearly. I have dealt with issues all over the world. I know where my line is and i would not stand for it. We have straight in the process. It is not just it. We have straight in the process. It is notjust up to me as an individual. The organisation is much tougher and also the board. A lot of this is about having really clear board processes. The main complaint we got wrong last time was dealing with it informally rather than formally and that led to the other issues and that is the really big change we have made as well as guaranteeing independent investigations. Do you know as mr watkins has ever considered resigning . I cannot speak for Kevin Watkins himself. He has been involved in the sector for a very long time and he is very passionate about the work we go. He takes it incredibly seriously and i know how much he worries about this to make sure we get it right. We alljoin save the children for the passion for the work that we do. We are founded as a Child Rights Organisation and we have to make sure we apply those same values of integrity and respect to our staff. I wrote Kevin Watkins an open letter and invited him to respond on seven matters and not once have i been invited on to save the children to speak to any member of they are or senior Leadership Team. I was not invited to participate or help train the review which i asked those who we re the review which i asked those who were involved at the time. There are many people who have left save the children. 1000 staff in 18 months when i worked there. You have isolated your current staff and that isolated your current staff and that is great but what you havent done it have an open reflective conversation with the people who understood the Power Dynamics which pauline has alluded to very carefully so i still call for Kevin Watkins to resign today. The point of these susanna shell investigation, she invited everybody to come forwards, and i know there isa to come forwards, and i know there is a disagreement on this point, but i have spoken to her and the team, we have had hundreds of staff including former staff come forward, and she is an expert in Power Dynamics. I am and she is an expert in Power Dynamics. Iam not and she is an expert in Power Dynamics. I am not saying we have got everything right. We have a long way to go. We are very committed and we are very different to 2015. Thank you, the executive director of save the children uk. Pauline latham, conservative mp who sits on parliaments International Development committee, calling for Kevin Watkins to step down from his role as chief executive of the charity. Englands chief medical officer professor chris whitty has been up before a committee of mps this morning, talking about coronavirus. He told them the uks response was already moving from trying to contain the spread to now attempting to delay it. There are now several not large numbers but several cases where we cannot see where this has come from in terms of the clear transmission either because someone has come directly from overseas or because they have had a close contact with someone who has recently returned from overseas and that i think makes it highly likely, therefore, that there is some Community Transmission and this virus in the uk now. I think we should work on the assumption it is here at very low levels at this point in time but that i think should be the working assumption on which we go forward from this point onwards. Next were going to meet this dad whos been self isolating in his caravan on his driveway in 0xfordshire for seven days. His wife ruth is dropping off food for him outside the door. Meanwhile, a leading scientist has told this programme that the governments response to testing people suspected of having coronavirus isnt fast enough and that its not tapping into resources available. Professor mark harris says there are researchers across the country who flew out to sierra leone four years ago during the Ebola Outbreak to work on testing the poluation there who should be deployed here to do to the same. Tell us what the last seven days have been like, you are living in your caravan. It has been relaxing, i guess. I have got a lot of work done and that is what i continue to done and that is what i continue to do and expect to do for the next seven do and expect to do for the next seven days. Why are you self isolating . I developed some symptoms when i was away and when i got back i rang 111 and they asked me to self isolate while a test was arranged so that is what i am doing. It is interesting you mentioned. It is interesting you mentioned. It has been a slow process and the experience i have had. That is my biggest concern. When did you initially call 111 . Saturday. What did the specialist say to you. They said a clinician would call me back, which they did on monday. And that you should be tested presumably . Yes. The clinician said i should stay isolated and i would get a call back to arrange a test and that happened yesterday afternoon, wednesday afternoon, so it is a big delay from saturday to win a test was arranged and i am going to go in and get this afternoon. Mike harris, do you understand that kind of delay . It seems like a very long delay. There are delays at different levels. 0ne delay. There are delays at different levels. One is a delay in taking a sample from this patient or person and the other will be the delay and actually testing that sample to see whether the virus is present or not and that process of the test should be very quick. The actual molecular as he takes maybe two or three hours so as he takes maybe two or three hours soido as he takes maybe two or three hours so i do not see why there should be such a delay in getting the sort of response. Such a delay in getting the sort of response. Because such a delay in getting the sort of response. Because people are stretched, but you are seeing there are other specialist here who can help . Yes. My concern is we have people being stretched and i do not wa nt people being stretched and i do not want to be critical of the people doing these tests, they are doing a fantasticjob. Doing these tests, they are doing a fantastic job. When we doing these tests, they are doing a fantasticjob. When we had the Ebola Outbreak about four years ago a numberof outbreak about four years ago a number of Research Staff working in laboratories across the uk including my laboratory in leeds had the expertise and working in the containment and working with pathogens and were seconded and went out to sierra leone for maybe six weeks to essentially do this, to set test samples for the presence of ebola, so nothing different to what they were doing compared to what needs to be done for this coronavirus. It may be in heathrow are somewhere around the country. Pa rt of are somewhere around the country. Part of the delay we are seeing is that samples have to be taken and sent to a Specialist Centre where they are analysed. If we could set up they are analysed. If we could set up some mobile labs may be manned by people seconded from Research Labs for a short period of time that may help to relieve this backlog of treatment, of testing. That is doable . I think it is doable. Treatment, of testing. That is doable . Ithink it is doable. It treatment, of testing. That is doable . I think it is doable. It was doable . I think it is doable. It was doable for the five years ago to send people to sierra leone so surely it is doable closer to home. Do you have any clue as to when you might have to go for your test . |j do you have any clue as to when you might have to go for your test . I am going this afternoon. You initially called them on saturday and five days later you are going for the actual test. Yes. Days later you are going for the actualtest. Yes. Are days later you are going for the actual test. Yes. Are you worried . I have heard it is relatively uncomfortable. I might try to record it to see what it looks like. Please do that and we will play it on the programme tomorrow. Are you worried about it being a positive outcome . 0rare you as about it being a positive outcome . Or are you as relaxed as you appear . I have already been unwell. I was already mildly unwell so i am not particularly worried. I guess i am worried if it is positive because effort is it has already been five days. I have had a lot of contact with people while i was away. There could be a huge spread if it left undetected. Are you able to show us around your caravan so we can see how big or small it is . And where ruth drops the food. Let me see if i can flip the camera around. I am lucky because i have my bed and my lounge area and i have a shower and a bathroom facility of my own. It is better to feisty on here than in the house because of was in the house i would perhaps have one bedroom i would perhaps have one bedroom i would be locked into. I get to sit here and occasionally see my wife and daughter through the kitchen window. My daughter will stand on the windowsill and start shouting out at me which is quite nice. Does it feel tougher do you have things in perspective . I have things in perspective. Its tough not being with my family because i am away a lot a nyway, with my family because i am away a lot anyway, so this is my time at home. But i guess conveniently actually any other trips i have had recently they have all been cancelled and not because of me but just because of Companies Taking a realistic approach to unnecessary travel. Good luck with the test this afternoon. 0bviously travel. Good luck with the test this afternoon. Obviously i hope it comes back negative. Let us know. Please film it. You are amazing. A man with perspective as a man i love. Thank you for coming on the programme. Seh you for coming on the programme. Self isolating and has been for a week so far on his driveway at his home in 0xfordshire. We will see if the government takes notice of what you are saying as well. Lets get more reaction to the collapse of flybe. Rory boland is the travel editor of the consumer Rights Organisation which and tamarin fountain who is getting married in two weeks in edinburgh. The flybe news means her mums flight from southampton for it has been cancelled. Hopefully i am going to be able to see you at any moment. You have two weeks to sort this. Are you going to be able to do that . Yes, but it causes a big problem because flybe is the only airline that does that route. We have always relied on them. Since i moved to scotland i have completely relied on that to visit my family and particularly that short timeframes to get somewhere it has been essential, an essential service. It is possible but it causes a lot of problems and particularly at a time when we are worried about things and have had concerns about travel chaos it is an extra stress and headache. Concerns about travel chaos it is an extra stress and headachem concerns about travel chaos it is an extra stress and headache. It is an extra stress and headache. It is an extra stress and headache, but she is going to get there because she is not going to miss your wedding. No, hopefully not, as long as they do not start quarantining everybody. No. You cannot think about that. Lets keep this thing in perspective. Where are we in terms of people like tamarins mum. What is the deal in terms of money . Yes, particularly stressful situation of a wedding. A wedding. A couple of things to look at, which you might be able to get some or all of your money back. The first thing is travel insurance. That may not be travel insurance. That may not be travel insurance. That may not be travel insurance you have taken it specifically. It could be part of a bank account to have a credit card you have. What you are looking for is scheduled operator failure cover. About half of travel insurance policies have that. If you have that you will be covered for almost all eventualities, all extra expenditure, new tickets, hotel rooms, anything like that. If you dont have the travel insurance hopefully get paid by credit card and the price of the ticket was over £100 and if so and you did you will be able to get all of that money back. Beyond that it gets a little bit trickier. If you paid by debit ca rd bit trickier. If you paid by debit card or the ticket was under £100 then you can try something called chargeback through your bank or card provider but i am afraid that is a little bit less guaranteed. Christy robinson is on the phone. Can you hear me . Yes. You have had to reboot your flights for your daughters zist. Your flights for your daughters 21st. How much is that cost you . £208 plus 50p for a return train ticket. That is a decent sound. What did you spend on the flybe tickets . £145. Any chance of getting that back . I dont think so. I very foolishly used my debit card instead of my credit card even though martin lewis told me on so many occasions not to do so. I have rebuilt with easyjet using my credit card. You have to accept that money is gone, you have lost it, at least you are going to get to your doctors 21st. I was listening to bbc news last night and the travel expert came on and said he advised people to rebook and said he advised people to rebook andl and said he advised people to rebook and i immediately went on to easyjet and i immediately went on to easyjet and booked an alternative flight and lam and booked an alternative flight and i am really glad i did because those flights have sold out and alternative times for those flights have skyrocketed. Where are you going . From belfast to southampton and then onto bournemouth where my daughter is at university. And then onto bournemouth where my daughter is at universitylj and then onto bournemouth where my daughter is at university. I am glad you have yourself sorted. It is only a small amount of money for me. For the employees affected at flybe in the employees affected at flybe in the knock on at the airports it is a whole different story and my heart goes out to them. I hope you have a great party. Happy birthday to your daughter. Someone has been doing the route for the past four years and is gutted. It is so convenient as reasonably priced. I live in the very north of scotland says roaming highlander and we rely on flybe for travel between the islands. However airports rely massively on flybe. What happens to the airports of nobody steps in to continue the flights . This is going to be a question for politicians in terms of connecting up the regents of the uk. 0ur closest city is inverness and they are also a flybe airport. Adam says flybe going and it is dreadful for the south west. We will be we we re for the south west. We will be we were speaking to the chairman of newquay airport earlier. He says it means more congestion on the roads which have not been upgraded for decades. If anybody wants more information, where can they get it . Head on to other website to the Consumer Rights part and there are detailed guides about how to use those chargeback schemes, whether you have a credit card or a debit ca rd you have a credit card or a debit card or you need to claim on your travel insurance. Thank you. I hope you have an amazing wedding, tamarin. You will remember this year for your wedding, not for coronavirus or flybe. Bbc newsroom live is coming up next. Thank you for your company today. Have a good day. We have got some sunshine across Northern Areas of the uk at the moment. Some fine weather here but not so fine further south. A lot of rainfall eventually clearing away from South West England and across south wales but the rain will continue in the south east corner towards hampshire and dorset into this afternoon and even this evening. Elsewhere some sunshine and a few showers in northern england, Northern Ireland and scotland. Maximum temperature is 79 celsius. The rain will eventually clean away and we are left with clear skies across many parts seven and we are left with clear skies across many parts seven to nine. Throughout friday there will be some sunshine particularly in central and eastern areas. Further west a few more showers moving and but later in the day there will be some sunshine. Youre watching bbc newsroom live its11am and these are the main stories this morning with coronavirus cases in the uk continuing to rise the chief medical officer for england warns we are moving into the delay stage of the governments plan to try slow the spread of the virus by by delaying the start of a significant transmission, we can push back. With 90 cases now confirmed in the uk, a new report says the nhs doesnt have enough nurses, to deal with an epidemic elsewhere california declares a state of emergency, after a cruise ship passenger arriving in San Francisco dies from the virus. Flybe passengers are told do not travel to the airport