be going on. so, that's what started it. so, what were you doing? were you approaching them at that point? were you trying to find out who these whistle—blowers were or they were in the public domain and you were trying to get access? what were you trying to do? ijust started trying to speak to as many people as possible — both those who had written about this very early, because there wasn't that much around about it at the time. i spoke — i was talking to a couple of clinicians. i met them face to face in that spring. and i spoke with a oxford associate professor called michael biggs, who'd found some unpublished data on a study that gids had done on puberty blockers. and that's where our first film, myself and deborah cohen, who was health correspondent at the time, that's yes because i was going to say, you know, as you mentioned, i was working with you at newsnight at the time. i remember you and deb cohen doing this series of reports. how would you — so, that was for newsnight. how would you characterise media coverage of this story more widely? pretty woeful, i think. in what way? it just. .. it hasn't. ..
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