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at bbc in chris curtis, editor in chief of broadcast magazine. chris came a very good to have you back on the media show, and i've got to ask you about two of the biggest names in bbc news, emily maitliss and john sopel, both leaving it together and heading to the media company global to make a podcast, to do a show for the bbc as well and of course all of this comes not long after andrew marr left bbc and also went to global. so i wonder, chris, how you assess this announcement? i mean, it's been characterised as a brain drain and it's pretty clear that there is a string of high—profile talent. i mean, it was not that long ago that eddie mayer made the same move. there's a lot of attraction, i think, in those big name presenters moving away from the bbc. if it gives them a little

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