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Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Context with Christian Fraser 20240604 21:17:00

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of, there is clearly an awareness now of. "oh _ there is clearly an awareness now of, "oh goodness, we really must support— of, "oh goodness, we really must support these flourishing democracies wherever they land." democracies wherever they land. " you're _ democracies wherever they land. " you're quite democracies wherever they land." you're quite right, this is a very concerning _ you're quite right, this is a very concerning development, and it underscores an east versus west tug-of-war— underscores an east versus west tug—of—war that we've seen exacerbated since the start of the ukraine- — exacerbated since the start of the ukraine— russia conflict. this exacerbated since the start of the ukraine- russia conflict. this term for an agent _ ukraine- russia conflict. this term for an agent has _ ukraine- russia conflict. this term for an agent has negative - for an agent has negative connotations, we know in russia it translates to spy or trader, and this is an off—the—shelf style bill because vladimir putin brought something like this in 2012 and we know what happened next. yes. something like this in 2012 and we know what happened next. yes, and we must be very — know what happened next. yes, and we must be very careful _ know what happened next. yes, and we must be very careful what _ know what happened next. yes, and we must be very careful what we _ know what happened next. yes, and we must be very careful what we say, - must be very careful what we say, there's— must be very careful what we say, there's a _ must be very careful what we say, there's a degree _ must be very careful what we say, there's a degree of _ must be very careful what we say, there's a degree of plausible - there's a degree of plausible deniahility— there's a degree of plausible deniability around _ there's a degree of plausible deniability around all- there's a degree of plausible deniability around all this. it| there's a degree of plausible - deniability around all this. it has all the _ deniability around all this. it has all the trappings _ deniability around all this. it has all the trappings of _ deniability around all this. it has all the trappings of information. all the trappings of information warfare, — all the trappings of information warfare, all— all the trappings of information warfare, all the _ all the trappings of information warfare, all the destruction - all the trappings of information warfare, all the destruction toi warfare, all the destruction to civil society, _ warfare, all the destruction to civil society, all— warfare, all the destruction to civil society, all the _ civil society, all the misinformation- civil society, all the l misinformation that's civil society, all the - misinformation that's going civil society, all the _ misinformation that's going on around — misinformation that's going on around it _ misinformation that's going on around it. it's— misinformation that's going on around it. it's very— misinformation that's going on around it. it's very hard - misinformation that's going on around it. it's very hard to - misinformation that's going on i around it. it's very hard to isolate and unpick— around it. it's very hard to isolate and unpick everything _ around it. it's very hard to isolate and unpick everything that's - around it. it's very hard to isolatel and unpick everything that's going on, and unpick everything that's going on. not _ and unpick everything that's going on. not least _ and unpick everything that's going on, not least because _ and unpick everything that's going on, not least because the - and unpick everything that's going i on, not least because the president is so much —

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