Agencies on the ground. And spare a thought for greece, battered by wildfires, inundated by storm dennis. We will touch on the other disaster in one of europes biggest farming areas. Good evening. We know what rishi sunak� s plan is, when it comes to immigration. Weve got a plan, the plan is delivering, and im determined to stop the boats. So far, it has not quite worked out as the Prime Minister would like. Tens of thousands of migrants continue to cross the channel each year. And the governments supposed deterrant, sending the Asylum Seekers to rwanda, is yet to get off the ground. So today, the Opposition Leader keir starmer came up with a plan of his own. We have to stop that and i think the only way to smash that is to smash the gangs that are running this trade. Sir keir says the people smugglers who are making millions from this trade, should be treated like terrorists. Sir keir, who is well ahead in the polls, travelled to the hague today for talks with europol, the pan European Police force which the uk left, post brexit. Sir keir says if he were Prime Minister hed negotiate a new Security Agreement with europe, which would include better sharing of intelligence. We will bring you plenty of reaction on that story, we are just waiting for one of our guests on that story tonight. Lets turn to the situation in libya while we are waiting. The death toll in libya is being revised upwards. It is possible that as many 20,000 people have died in the floods that hit the city of derna after buildings were swept out to sea on sunday night. Some 5,000 bodies have been recovered or identified so far, but such was the force of the water which flowed out to sea, that bodies are strewn up to 10km along the shoreline. The un says most of those lives could have been saved if there had been proper Weather Warnings and an evacuations carried out. Quentin sommerville reports from derna. In the dead of night they seek sanctuary from rising floodwaters. This woman with her Three Sisters and younger brother flee to the seventh floor of their Apartment Block in derna. The rising torrent is creeping up the stairs of their building. Her sister films the panic. Outside buildings around them collapse. They thought this would be their last moments arrived. It almost was but this is their building now, still standing. The family survived. She recounted to us by phone the nightmare they endured. The men of our building, our neighbours, they were screaming and yelling, they told us we have to get on the roof because the water started getting higher and higher. As we were on the roof we were able to see other people in other buildings ref� s and they were waving phones and flashlights, and then suddenly the building collapsed. And at that moment we realise that actually we might die. A wall of water as high as seven metres thundered through derna, crossing and obliterating much in its path. Some 1 Million Tonnes of it came crashing down on the city after two Mountain Dams failed. Everywhere there are bodies. The isolated port city has been overwhelmed by grief. And for days they have been left to pick up the pieces alone. No turkish emergency teams are among the first to arrive in derna. We set up Search And Rescue teams, we have treated Trauma Patients continuously here throughout the day. This libyan catastrophe has deep roots. After the nato backed ousting of Muammar Gaddafi in 2011, the country fell into chaos. Promises of western help to rebuild vanished. It has two rival governments, one in the east and one in the west of the country. A pair of failed states. Neglect is widespread. This is one of the dams that failed. Amid libyas political chaos, warnings it was in urgent need of repairs went unheeded. Translation it was a catastrophe. All of my friends are dead. One of my friends at the very beginning was filming from the top of the valley. My friend, he was filming. He died. A quarter of the city is now in ruins. A third of its people homeless, and thousands dead. But the true scale of dernas disaster is unfolding still. Quentin sommerville, bbc news. The Uns World Meteorological Organization said thousands of deaths could have been avoided warnings should have been issued leading to evacuations. If there would have been a normally operating meteorological service, they could have issued a warning and also the Emergency Management would have been able to carry out evacuation of the people and we could have avoided most of the human casualties. Of course, we cannot fully avoid economic losses, but we could have also minimised there is losses by having those losses by having Proper Services in place. Im joined now by tauhid pasha, the interim Chief Of Mission in libya for the International Organization for migration. What did the authorities do with the thousands and thousands of people who are without homes . The ages trickling in but is it getting through . Trickling in but is it getting throu~h . ,, trickling in but is it getting throu. H . ,, trickling in but is it getting throuuh . ,, through . Accessibility is a huge roblem. Through . Accessibility is a huge problem i through . Accessibility is a huge problem i am through . Accessibility is a huge problem. I am now through . Accessibility is a huge problem. I am now in through . Accessibility is a huge| problem. I am now in benghazi, through . Accessibility is a huge problem. I am now in benghazi, there is a United Nations team that is going into derna tomorrow. Our team is already on the ground. They were on the ground already when Hurricane Daniel Hit and i am very pleased to say that they were not affected. However, they have been giving me direct information about what is happening on the ground. It is very, very bad. The city is split in two and as your report quite clearly said, huge devastation with more to come. On the east side of the city there is one working hospital. That hospital has lost its own doctors and nurses and so it has lost key personnel. The personnel needs to be replenished as well as the supplies. The hospital is coping with dead bodies and we need to get medical services up and running again and thatis services up and running again and that is one request to us. You services up and running again and that is one request to us. That is one request to us. You are talkin that is one request to us. You are Talking About that is one request to us. You are Talking About people that is one request to us. You are Talking About people with that is one request to us. You are Talking About people with missing limbs, some horrific injuries. There is the threat of disease as well, you are going to need inoculations, things like that. Is that sort of expertise there in the city . That exertise expertise there in the city . That expertise had expertise there in the city . That expertise had to expertise there in the city . That expertise had to be expertise there in the city . Twat expertise had to be flown in from tripoli and benghazi. We have arrived with medical teams, protection teams, teams of doctors in teams of people giving out direct assistance. Everything from mattresses, right through to key items to survive with, along with food. We have been bringing in supplies from tripoli to benghazi overnight to get there. And once they get to benghazi, getting into derna is another issue because the Road Accessibility is very, very pooh Road Accessibility is very, very poor. And so the logistics are very bad. There is expertise in libya. Our own colleagues, experts, they are medical professionals and they are medical professionals and they are psychosocial professionals, to give psychosocial help to those suffering from trauma. The question is getting the right people into derna. ~. Is getting the right people into derna. ~. , derna. What about the port . I know there is a port derna. What about the port . I know there is a port there derna. What about the port . I know there is a port there but derna. What about the port . I know there is a port there but has it there is a port there but has it been damaged by the floodwaters . The ort, been damaged by the floodwaters . Twa port, apparently is to been damaged by the floodwaters . Tue port, apparently is to handle and there is a ship coming in, but that is not confirmed, so i cannot comment on that. If that port becomes operational that will be a great help because you can stop the shipments. 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Absolutely, we have a| suboffice in benghazi, which has sub office in benghazi, which has been up and running for many years. We have been present in libya, both in tripoli and benghazi. We have the support of the authorities. In fact, the authorities have requested, the International Community to assist and they have offered their cooperation. The onus is on us, as the International Community, to be able to respond in kind. We the International Community, to be able to respond in kind. Able to respond in kind. We will have to leave able to respond in kind. We will have to leave it able to respond in kind. We will have to leave it there, able to respond in kind. We will have to leave it there, thank i able to respond in kind. We willl have to leave it there, thank you for your time. We will talk plenty more through the programme this evening about the situation in libya and the help that is required. Lets go back to our top story, sir keir starmer in the hague today talking to europol. He wants to smash the Smuggling Gangs that smuggle people across the channel. Mr harvey, if i could start with you, explain to our viewers what happen post brexit with our Intelligence Sharing . Happen postbrexit with our Intelligence Sharing . Happen postbrexit with our Intelligence Sharing . Prior to brexit we Intelligence Sharing . Prior to brexit we had Intelligence Sharing . Prior to brexit we had serious Intelligence Sharing . Prior to i brexit we had serious realtime brexit we had serious real time cooperation with our eu partners. We had exchange of the highest level of intelligence information with the countries we do business with. The uk led on dedicated budgets, countering Human Trafficking and we had the ability to work on joint Investigation Teams. A judicial tool designed to fast track investigations, officers from other countries working on our territory and vice versa. After brexit, we lost everything. We had no access to the tools provided to us by members of the European Union and by membership of europol. We went from taking the fight to the organised criminals with both hands, to turn up criminals with both hands, to turn up at the fight with our hands tied behind our back. Tn up at the fight with our hands tied behind our back. Up at the fight with our hands tied behind our back. In your former role ou are behind our back. In your former role you are the behind our back. In your former role you are the only behind our back. In your former role you are the only british behind our back. In your former role you are the only British Police you are the only British Police officer appointed to the commissions high level advisory group. You drafted the 2011 anti trafficking directive for the European Union. When you look at keir starmer� s plan he has set out today, does it look something similar . T today, does it look something similar . , today, does it look something similar . , today, does it look something similar . , similar . I am pleased there is a move towards similar . I am pleased there is a move towards going similar . I am pleased there is a move towards going back similar . I am pleased there is a move towards going back to similar . I am pleased there is a i move towards going back to where similar . I am pleased there is a move towards going back to where we were before 2016. The directive from 2011 was drafted with a view to being a practical tool for practitioners, to move away from pure legislation to actually give the investigators and the prosecutor is the tools to do the job. The group i was part of advise the European Commission of what was required on the ground. And we put into place every measure that we saw crucial for fighting organised criminality at the highest level. Just on that issue, i want to bring my other guest in soon, but if you remove one gang, does that get to the root of the problem . As i understand it, it is a bit like whack a mole, you remove one gang, and it is so cheap and easy to supply these boats, someone else will fill the void . Will fill the void . Absolutely, you hit the nail will fill the void . Absolutely, you hit the nail on will fill the void . Absolutely, you hit the nail on the will fill the void . Absolutely, you hit the nail on the head. Will fill the void . Absolutely, you hit the nail on the head. So hit the nail on the head. So dont ou need hit the nail on the head. So dont you need a hit the nail on the head. So dont you need a deterrent . Hit the nail on the head. So dont you need a deterrent . You hit the nail on the head. So dont you need a deterrent . You do, i hit the nail on the head. So dont i you need a deterrent . You do, the deterrent needs you need a deterrent . You do, the deterrent needs to you need a deterrent . You do, the deterrent needs to be you need a deterrent . You do, the deterrent needs to be a you need a deterrent . You do, the deterrent needs to be a proper deterrent needs to be a proper investigation and providing a hostile environment for traffickers and smugglers to operate in. The chance of being detected, detained, prosecuted and convicted are unlikely. What we need is an environment whereby it is very likely if you are a smuggler or a trafficker you will be identified, you will be caught and you will be imprisoned. That is the deterrent. You are right, there is no point in having an operation that lasts a few days and you take down one particular trafficking ring, they will be replaced. These gangs and organisations are seen by most of the people that are exploited and taken advantage of as Service Providers. They are Service Providers. They are Service Providers because these individuals have no regular migration pathways, they have no access to leaving the country and into another country legally. So they go to the Service Providers. So these gangs of traffickers and smugglers have a queue of people waiting for their service. It is notjust a one off investigation and a high profile action day, this has got to be constant in the same way as keir starmer said, that we look to tackle terrorism and drug trafficking. Thank you for that. Sir keir starmer, where he to be elected Prime Minister, wants to be more deeply integrated with europol and to share a quota of migrants, for the pleasure of bingo integrated in the pleasure of bingo integrated in the european system, is that some think the European Union would consider . ,. , , consider . Yes, of course. It is important consider . Yes, of course. It is important that consider . Yes, of course. It is important that that consider . Yes, of course. It is important that that you consider . Yes, of course. It is important that that you participate in the important that that you participate in the system to this migration in europe in the system to this migration in europe we in the system to this migration in europe. We have migrants moving from one geographical area, the European Union one geographical area, the European Union to one geographical area, the European Union to the uk. The uk used to be Totaiiy Union to the uk. The uk used to be totally integrated in the migration as in the totally integrated in the migration as in the rules and we are on the way for as in the rules and we are on the way for a as in the rules and we are on the way for a new package. We hope to adopt way for a new package. We hope to adopt it way for a new package. We hope to adopt it before june next year. It is a pity adopt it before june next year. It is a pity Great Britain doesnt take part in is a pity Great Britain doesnt take part in it is a pity Great Britain doesnt take part in it because it means more controi part in it because it means more control at part in it because it means more control at the stage of entry and that the control at the stage of entry and that the same time, more common management of the issues, accelerated procedures, correct Accommodation Rules and also returns that are Accommodation Rules and also returns that are in Accommodation Rules and also returns that are in the case in the peak of migration that are in the case in the peak of migration. It is a whole set of ruies migration. It is a whole set of rules that migration. It is a whole set of rules that can make europe more efficient rules that can make europe more efficient and it is too bad the uk stays efficient and it is too bad the uk stays on efficient and it is too bad the uk stays on the side. The efficient and it is too bad the uk stays on the side. Stays on the side. The side. The rules you stays on the side. The side. The rules you describe stays on the side. The side. The rules you describe are stays on the side. The side. The rules you describe are rules stays on the side. The side. The rules you describe are rules for| stays on the side. The side. The i rules you describe are rules for eu members and you will be aware of the politics in the uk and the concern is, when we talk about this quota if it is 120,000 migrants a year, if you have that on plus dont stop the people smuggling, then you have an increasing level of migration, which would be politically difficult for keir starmer. So what guarantee is there that if the people keep coming across the channel in excess of the quota, europe will take back that access . ,. ,. ,. , access . This is not how it works. It is common access . This is not how it works. It is common management access . This is not how it works. It is common management that access . This is not how it works. It is common management that is access . This is not how it works. It is common management that is planned for europe is common management that is planned for europe with 27 existing Member States for europe with 27 existing Member States and for europe with 27 existing Member States. And as youve just talked about, states. And as youve just talked about, we states. And as youve just talked about, we have Europol Fighting against about, we have Europol Fighting against smugglers with very efficient tools, like the Investigation Teams he were just talking Investigation Teams he were just Talking About. It is too bad the uk doesnt Talking About. It is too bad the uk doesnt take part. I must say the uk is very doesnt take part. I must say the uk is very attractive for migrants. They is very attractive for migrants. They come is very attractive for migrants. They come into europe without any declaration, without asking for anything declaration, without asking for anything. But trying to go to the french anything. But trying to go to the french coast and to cross the channel french coast and to cross the channel and they are very quickly integrated in your labour market. And this integrated in your labour market. And this incentive to come is very, very strong and this incentive to come is very, very strong. Europe has defined a common very strong. Europe has defined a common path to better control the 27 Member Common Path to better control the 27 Member States, the entries and to manage Member States, the entries and to manage this better together. This is the aim manage this better together. This is the aim of manage this better together. This is the aim of the new package and unfortunately the uk is not taking part unfortunately the uk is not taking part if unfortunately the uk is not taking part if we unfortunately the uk is not taking part. If we start a discussion and some part. If we start a discussion and some way part. If we start a discussion and some way the uk takes part, we can only improve the system. Only improve the system. Thank you both very much only improve the system. Thank you both very much indeed. Only improve the system. Thank you both very much indeed. We only improve the system. Thank you both very much indeed. We will only improve the system. Thank you both very much indeed. We will see | both very much indeed. We will see what comes of ce keir starmer� s meeting with president macron next week. You are watching bbc news, we will take a short break. Lets have some of the other stories making use. The government has confirmed its support for the introduction of marthas rule, which would give Hospital Patients in england the right to a second opinion. Its named after 13 year old martha mills, who died of sepsis two years ago, despite her mother raising concerns with doctors about her treatment. The Kings College Hospital Trust said it was deeply sorry. Greater Manchester Police have become the latest force to fall victim to a serious data breach. A Company Making warrant cards was targeted in a cyber attack, with the names and photos of officers compromised. Greater Manchester Police chiefs say theyre aware of the hack, and an investigation has already begun. John lewis says its plan to return to profit will take two years longer than expected, after it reported further losses for the first half of the year. The high street giant, which also owns waitrose, said rising Business Costs and larger than expected Investment Requirements meant that its Recovery Plan would not be finished until 2028. Youre live with bbc news. Lets talk more about storm daniel, which dumped huge amounts of water across europe and north africa this weekend. And let me show you a small disaster that is not being so widely covered. This area here on the map is the Thessalian Plain in northern greece. Around a quarter of greeces Agricultural Production is grown on these plains and now they are under water. An area nearly as large as new york city. A years rainfall in just 48 hours. Its notjust the wheat and barley they will lose, its 30 of the cotton, chickpeas, lentils, pistachios, a fifth of the hay used in livestock farming. That will inevitably lead to higher prices in europe. Now think back to the pictures in august the wildfires in North Eastern greece which were the worst on european soil in years, according to copernicus. Storm daniel certainly put paid to most of that, but this was not the kind of rain they were praying for. In fact, when it left greece, the storm turned into a powerful medicane a Mediterranean Cyclone which wreaked the devastation we now see in eastern libya. Joining me now climate scientist paulo ceppi, whos a Senior Lecturer at the Imperial College london. When you put it all together, you start to get a real sense of how our climate is changing and how big the adaptation is going to need to be . Yes, of course. One of the main things about Climate Change is the enhanced likelihood of extreme events and there are a wide range of extreme events whose likelihood and severity gets more extreme with Global Warming. We can think of heatwaves, extreme rainfall. Those are two typical examples, so the warmer atmosphere can hold much more water vapour than a less warm atmosphere and that is one of the big drivers of extreme events like we have just seen with storm daniel. We know for a Fact Storm Daniel that have dumped much less rain in a less hot world and it is a direct consequence of Climate Change and prior to that, this summer we had a sequence of major heatwaves in the mediterranean and Southern Europe and that set the stage for the events we have just seen because this made the Mediterranean Sea is much warmer than usual, over 30 celsius in some places that provides the fuel for the storms like storm daniel we have just seen. The fuel for the storms like storm daniel we havejust seen. You the fuel for the storms like storm daniel we have just seen. Danielwe have ust seen. You might have had the Danielwe Havejust seen. You might have had the uns Danielwe Havejust seen. You might have had the uns meteorological. Have had the uns Meteorological Organisation said there needs to be better forecasting, better advisories for people in affected areas. Is this a developing World Problem . I havejust come back from the 620 problem . I havejust come back from the g20 and they are Talking About the g20 and they are Talking About the money that needs to be put into this sort of system. Is that one of the problems at the root of what happened in libya . T the problems at the root of what happened in libya . Happened in libya . I think what haened happened in libya . I think what happened in happened in libya . I think what happened in libya happened in libya . I think what happened in libya is happened in libya . I think what happened in libya is a happened in libya . I think what happened in libya is a complex| happened in libya . I think what happened in libya is a complex event with multifactorial causes. Of course, Climate Change and a climate event was won but there was a lack of preparedness, a lack of solid infrastructure and so these things conspire to lead to the disaster we observed. We know in general, developing countries will be much more vulnerable to the impacts of Climate Change, because they have fewer resources, they are less able to prepare and adapt to the changes. I think ultimately it comes down to the idea of a common responsibility among nations. Tt is the idea of a common responsibility among nations among nations. It is a very good example. Among nations. It is a very good example. Isnt among nations. It is a very good example, isnt it, among nations. It is a very good example, isnt it, if among nations. It is a very good example, isnt it, if you among nations. It is a very good example, isnt it, if you put among nations. 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Just on the climate issue, we have a minute left, the line. Just on the climate issue, we have a minute left, are the line. Just on the climate issue, we have a minute left, are we we have a minute left, are we talking purely about Climate Change or is this el nino effect mixing, which is complicating the Weather Patterns . Which is complicating the Weather Atterns . ,. , patterns . This is an interesting ear. Of patterns . This is an interesting year. Of course, patterns . This is an interesting year. Of course, we patterns . This is an interesting year. Of course, we have patterns . This is an interesting | year. Of course, we have Global Warming, temperatures keep rising almost year on year globally. At the same time we have this el nino event and el nino, we always know causes some disruption of Weather Patterns, some disruption of Weather Patterns, so you have unusual weather, unusual temperatures and unusual rainfall in many parts of the world. What we are seeing that she is a combination of these two events. We have an el nino that hasnt happened in more than five years, superimposed on this Global Warming trend. This El Nino Isjust developing and Global Warming trend. This el nino is just developing and it normally peaks between december and february. We cannot say exactly what is going to happen, but it is likely there is going to be more unusual weather going to be more unusual weather going on around the world in the months to come. Going on around the world in the months to come. Really interesting, thank ou months to come. Really interesting, thank you for months to come. Really interesting, thank you for coming months to come. Really interesting, thank you for coming on months to come. Really interesting, thank you for coming on the thank you for coming on the programme this evening and talking to was about that. We will get some other thoughts about Flood Patterns in and around europe later on. Stay with us for that and we will take a short break. We will be right back. Hello there. Weve had quite a mixture of weather across the uk today. Across the south, dry, sunny, quite warm. Northern areas of the uk had a day of sunshine and these passing showers, but between across wales, the midlands, into lincolnshire we had a Weather Front bringing some fairly persistent outbreaks of rain. Now this front is tied to another area of low pressure out in the atlantic that is set to deepen and swing toward iberia, where its quite likely to lead to some severe thunderstorms over the next few days. For friday, it also flicks warm air across england and wales, but then will bring some heavy rain for some of us into the weekend. So that low to the south is quite important. Overnight tonight, outbreaks of rain turning heavier for a time across wales, the midlands, northern england, Pushing Northwards To Reach Southern Scotland and parts of Northern Ireland. For most, its a mild night, but quite cool air across the far north of the country. Now, we pick up on our weatherfronts on friday across northern england, Northern Ireland, southern scotland. Through the day, the rain on it will tend to weaken somewhat. Weve got sunshine developing to the south across england and wales, but underneath that band of cloud and rain in the north, those temperatures are going to struggle somewhat. Highs of 13 15 degrees. In contrast to that, england and wales turning a lot warmer, 21 25 degrees, feeling a little on the humid side. Now, saturday, the same Weather Front is still with us, draped across parts of northern england, wales, perhaps eastern counties of Northern Ireland. Could be a few patches of light rain here and maybe a few heavy showers in the south through sunday. Otherwise, well get some spells of sunshine, still warm and humid in the south, with that fresher air still affecting scotland, Northern Ireland and increasingly the far north of england as well. For sunday, that area of low pressure near iberia starts to bring much heavier rain across parts of the uk. Now, were most likely to see the heavy rain across england and wales. Thundery, too, probably heavy enough to cause some localised surface water flooding. And through the day, that will drive northwards, so its quite likely to reach Northern Ireland. And there is a small chance of it moving right the way northwards into parts of scotland as well. But the general Rule Of Thumb is the further north you are, the more likely you are to keep the dry weather with a bit of sunshine. Into next week, well, it looks very unsettled. A sequence of low pressures coming our way. Its going to be wet and also really quite windy as well. Its going to feel a bit more like autumn. Hello, im christian fraser. Youre watching the context on bbc news. The truth is out there nasas long awaited report into hundreds of ufo sightings finds no evidence aliens were behind the unexplained phenomena, but also cant rule out they werent going forward, nasa will investigate what it calls uaps sport now, and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, heres marc edwards. Hi, christian. We start with cricket, and a scintillating century from Nat Siver Brunt has seen her write her name into the History Books with englands fastest ever odi hundred, as her side won the the final one day game against sri lanka at leicestershires grace road. The match has been reduced to 31 overs per side due to rain, the visitors won the toss and decided to field Tammy Beaumont and alex capsey went cheaply. But sciver brunt was the star of englands innning gaining her 100th odi cap, she hit a sensational century injust 66 balls. She was eventually caught for 120, as the home side made 273