but that's a huge slow—down since last year. so while china may still sell the most evs per capita, the undisputed leader in sales, it's norway. nine out of ten cars sold in that country have a plug rather than a fuel cap, with the number of evs on its roads tipped to overtake petrol cars by the end of next year. it would be the first country to achieve this. so the question has to be asked, how has norway done it? well, to find out, i caught up with the state secretary of the norwegian ministry of transport. cecilie knibe kroglund, a real pleasure having you with us. cecilie, let's start with norway's incredible success in leading the way in getting people into evs. and that success is based on, well, incentives for drivers that have been afforded, ironically, by your country's oil and gas wealth. so, cecilie, is it fair to say that it's fossil fuel profits that's given norway this leading edge in going almost
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