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They very nearly ruined my life. I have certainly seen how they have ruined the lives of others. Its really difficult for me to sit here and talk about this because the whole point of fighting these newspapers is because i was so keen to have my privacy. I feel a sense of duty to expose them, as theyve exposed us. Prince harry and sir Eltonjohn Have launched legal action against the publishers of the daily mail action is being taken against the sun newspaper. Legal action against the mirror group over allegations of Phone Hacking. Who did you hack . It would be quicker to say who i didnt hack, wouldnt it . Itd be easier. Celebrities, politicians. I was living in this sort of Super Highway of illicit information. It was exciting. You felt like a spy. As the years have gone by, the story has grown and grown. Its 100 times worse than the press admitted to. These are frankly eyewatering claims. Bugging cars, listening to and recording live phone calls, paying Police Officials for sensitive information. I dont know to this day how many people have heard my deepest secrets, my desires. That Phone Hacking was not practised by the Mail On Sunday or the daily mail. I didnt feel like i was working in some sort of underground illegal newsgathering operation. I was working at the sun. What you saw was what you got. You have just about anybody whos ever appeared in a Tabloid Newspaper saying, give me large wadges of cash, please. I think its actually a legal scandal. Its not the money im after. Its to expose their guilt. Its justice. Its quite unbelievable that individuals could go to such lengths at a time when a family are so grief stricken. Where is the morals around this . How can they sleep at night . Happy christmas, everybody happy christmas lets zoom in on clare laughter. Clare was working at Harvey Nichols and she worked on a Beauty Counter there. She got to know michael pech, a slovakian Security Guard thati worked in Harvey Nichols. They dated for a period of three weeks. She decided to end the relationship. On the 13th of september, he crept up behind my daughter, he raised a gun witnesses saw it. He raised a gun. He shot her at the back of the head and as she fell, he shot her in the face. And then, he turned the gun on himself. | it was just before closing time last night when, in front of shoppers and staff, a man shot dead a woman serving on one of the ground floor cosmetics counters. Its believed the 22 year old victim had been stalked by her killer after ending a relationship with him. It was five years after clares murder, i got a phone call. From the metropolitan police. Within hours of her murder, i clares phone had been hacked and my phone had been hacked by the News Of The World. Now, it would appear that there were other papers. Well, tricia, thank you for coming in to see my colleague, dan, and i. What we found is an article in the sun on the 15th of september, very shortly after the tragic murder of your daughter, that looks suspicious. It may not be easy for you to hear now and im sorry about that, but it says, psycho on bail. Bloodbath at Harvey Nichols. And it quotes an unnamed friend of clares. And thats a sign to us that that may have been material taken from phones, or to cover up the fact that information was taken from phones because its unlikely, as i understand it, that the people who you knew who were clares friends were talking randomly to the sun newspaper, within two days. We did think, how can these individuals, whoever those individuals were, cos we didnt know, could talk to the press . I remember those feelings very, very well. What it says here is pech bombarded her with phone calls and threatening text messages. We would infer that the sun was aware that phone calls had been made. Either that was from itemised phone records that theyd obtained, or through voice mail interception. It was very similar to what happened at the News Of The World, we say. And thats going to be the basis of your claim against the sun. Hopefully, youll get to the bottom of what happened here. Thank you. Thinking that clare was abused after her death, thats the bit that really, really makes me angry. Nothing was private. Who knows . I have no idea and its the not. Knowing what they listened to, what they heard, and that will haunt me. What we now call the Phone Hacking scandal includes all sorts of other alleged unlawful activities by the papers. Were talking about dozens of reporters and thousands and thousands of people who were targeted in this way, of which a fraction have actually come forward and brought claims, and weve been helping them bring those claims. I started life as a doctor, as a junior hospital doctor, and then, in public health, and then, i was elected to parliament in oxford and until about five years ago, i was the Executive Director of the hacked off campaign, which campaigned on behalf of victims, so i started to meet the people who had been the victims of the abuse and criminality by newspapers. We believe that the scale of this activity, as you can see by the amount of information weve gathered, which is now too big for this office. The scale of this is enormous. A lot of evidence to back up the claimants allegation has been referred to in publicly available court documents. Our earliest cases involved the mirror group. Tabloid newspapers are very competitive beasts. The late 90s into the 2000s, in fleet street, there were two big groups. There was news international, which was the sun, the News Of The World. And there was their direct rival, which was the mirror group, the daily mirror, the Sunday Mirror and the sunday people. I edited the people. There was tremendous competition, head to head, between the sun, on the one hand, that was the biggest seller, and the daily mirror, which was trying desperately to overtake and beat their rival. What sold newspapers was celebrity. And the more salacious that story was, the better it sold. If someone ever said to me, what would you change in your life . , i would absolutely have never ever ever become a public figure. Ever. Success is great, but privacy is priceless. I lost my leg in 1993, crushed my pelvis, punctured my lung. Suddenly, it was all over the media. Model overcomes adversity. Id only been a model for, like, five minutes. And then, i had nonstop good press from � 93 to � 99. And then, it was as soon as i got in a relationship with my ex husband, the hell started. All right, everyone . Photographers shout. Archive as promised, paul and heather are here together today to Just A Little Bit of press interest. The details are were engaged. Thats it. I was obviously naive. It was as if, oh, its ok for you to overcome adversity, but theres no way youre going to marry an icon. They were just churning stories out that would feed into the public� s gossipy nature. Do you remember the first time that a personal piece of information was in the press, that you thought, i dont know how they got that . It was like 2001. Me and my then partner got into an argument, so i left and i went to my girlfriends and stayed there and switched the phone off. And woke up in the morning and found out that all my voice mail messages had been listened to. And i thought, thats weird. Why would it not be unheard messages . Didnt think anything more of it, got in the car, drove around. Then i got a call from neil wallis, from the people. He said, weve got this story that you have had an argument, and i was like, what . he said, well, yeah. We got told by a guy in a restaurant, and i said, well, no, i was at my friends last night. And i thought it was funny that my messages had been listened to, so youve hacked me. And he said. And that was something we hadnt even thought of, or knew of, in those days. And he said, no, no, no. And i said, if you run that story, then im coming after you legally. Id known and worked very well with heather for years. I remember it was the most bizarre conversation. And i had not a clue what she was talking about. So, i spoke to. I think the news editor who brought it to me, whod been sold it by a freelance. No mention there, too, j of how hed obtained it. I guess the question is that did you hack Heather Mills. No. Phone . No. Absolutely did not hack Heather Mills phone. I had no idea that anybody had hacked her phone. I and did you Commission Anyone to do that . Absolutely not. He then contacted me and said, im not running that article, just to let you know. And thats when i went, ok. Im being followed or hacked or something and thats when i started to become paranoid and i actually went to Government Back then and theyjust poo pooed me and said, shes completely nuts. Dont be so ridiculous. Conventionally, a good reporter is energetic and persistent and intelligent to persuade strangers to cooperate, but thats skilful and difficult and time consuming. And so, Voice Mail Hacking is a brilliant short cut. Why bother turning up on the doorstep and trying to persuade the famous actress to tell you her secrets when you can get straight into her voice mail in two minutes and youve got the story . Good afternoon. Police are continuing to question a seniorjournalist from the News Of The World over claims that aides to The Royal Family had their Mobile Phones hacked into. The papers royal editor is one of two men being held today. I Phone Hacking first came to the public� s attention in 2006 when a News Of The World journalist and a private investigator, glenn mulcaire, were arrested for listening to the voicemails of members of the royal household. Years later, the guardian revealed that hundreds of other people had been hacked. We published a whole series of stories over a two year period, which then came to a head injuly 2011, when we ran this story about how the News Of The World had hacked into the voice mail of the missing schoolgirl, milly dowler. That finally pushed the whole thing over the edge. Rupert murdoch, who runs britains biggest media company, appeared before mps to answer questions about the Phone Hacking scandal. I would just like to say one sentence. | this is the most humble day of my life. Thank you. The resulting scandal caused the News Of The World to close down. I feel so appalled by what has happened. Murder victims, terrorist victims, whove had their phones hacked, | is quite disgraceful. So, the government reacted by setting up the leveson inquiry. There were the most powerful people in the uk, told to sit in front of a microphone, while the world watched online, and talk about what really goes on in their newsrooms. Newspaper executives denied any knowledge of illegal activity. We have only seen unsubstantiated allegations and i have seen no evidence to show me that Phone Hacking has ever taken place at Trinity Mirror. Did you see this sort of thing going on, mr morgan . No. Are you sure about that . 100 . At the end of the day, nothing really changed. I think from the Point Of View of the public perception, the Phone Hacking saga all ended at some unspecified point after the leveson inquiry. In reality, it wasnt over because lawyers on behalf of all sorts of victims were suing through the courts and uncovering all sorts of new evidence. Across the next three years, mirror group repeatedly refused to make any admission of guilt over hacking. Tonight, Trinity Mirror have repeated the statement it has made many times over the last year, that its journalists worked within the law and within the press complaints code of conduct. All that changed, partly due to one journalist. He was arrested for hacking at the News Of The World, but told police that he had been taught to hack whilst working at the Sunday Mirror. Despite all the Documentary Evidence we have, the single most important thing are witnesses and Whistle Blowers in particular. By Whistle Blowers, i mean journalists who are willing to come forward to give evidence that they hacked phones and its very rare for that to happen. Thats why dan evans is so important because he has come forward and admitted to doing this kind of stuff and doing it regularly. Its incredibly important evidence for the claimants. At the height of it, i was hacking 100, 150 people a day, maybe. People like kate moss, daniel craig, david blunkett, who was the home secretary. At the time, lots of celebrities, sports people, sometimes their nearest and dearest, j sometimes their mistresses. You know, it was a very powerful feeling. It was. It gave you a visceral thrill at times to know stuff which nobody else did. Here we go. I specifically remember being told to look into an actress called shobna gulati. In the early 20005, id just embarked on my television career. I had done dinnerladies and i got a job on the biggest soap opera in the world, coronation street. You listen to me. Youre going to regret the day that you ever mess with me and my family now, you are, in real life, shobna, a single mum. I have my mum and my brother and my Sister In Law who really, really support me very much throughout this venture of mine. I was a really shy girl. Istillam. What i was doing was doing myjob, providing for my son. Have you not got any bacon . Have i not got any, or have i got any . Id never thought of it as like, im going to be famous. You know, baby, i love you. Im only in this mess because of your love. There were stories that were in the press about me when i was on coronation street. Mostly to do with my love life, because sunita has a terrible love life. But then, there was a lot more to do with me personally than sunita. I couldnt figure out how the paparazzi knew where i was going in manchester. Or they couldnt just happen to be there. I could never work that out. How did they know that id be at the station to pick up my boyfriend, who was coming in from london . I heard him leaving a message for her on her voice mail. Are you going to meet me at the Train Station . Bingo. Put photographers on it, with some long lenses, i at both ends of the Train Journey and youve got photos and bobs your uncle,. Its a page in the paper. She was targeted specifically because of her ethnicity and because of her gender, because she was regarded as being, you know, somebody who would appeal to both male and female readers, who ticked an important box, in terms of the demographicl reach of the paper. And i was the tool that was used to steal her secrets, put them on the front page of the paper theyd chase down any boyfriend i was seeing at the time and, you know, im in my 30s, so im out there, trying to find the one, like every other woman in her 30s. We became fodder. Whoever i was seeing became press fodder. Wed have rows about my partners being doorstepped. You know, i just. It would create all these questions in your head. And then, you would to and fro with that boyfriend, thinking it was something to do with them and obviously, you know, it would create a problem. So, when people read these stories in the newspapers, they would see the article and they would see a friend said or a pal said and the information was attributed to that unnamed person and they assumed, understandably, that it was a member of their family, or a close friend, who was selling that information to the newspaper. And it destroyed relationships, you know, lifelong friendships were blown apart and families were destroyed because of this. It was incredibly corrosive and damaging for these people and all the time, they didnt know that it was newspaper journalists, or private investigators, hacking their phone and obtaining that information. So, the damage it caused was immeasurable. I was just trying to figure out my way in life, to find a partner, maybe have some more children. You know. That hasnt happened. That hasnt happened because ive missed those years. Ive missed those years because it was all very tumultuous. Filled with paranoia and anxiety and mistrust and you cant form relationships like that. And it has destroyed. It has destroyed a whole sort of two decades of my life, where i could possibly have found something, but i never have. I didnt invent this. And it certainly wasnt i the papers first rodeo, when it came to Phone Hacking, when they instructed me in how to do it. My head of me is sat there and said, im going to use this one person to demonstrate on because he never picks up his phone its guaranteed to go through to his voice mail. Im like, ok, shoot. Who is it . He said, well, its a guy called alan yentob. Im like, ive never heard of alan yentob before. He was a bigwig at the bbc. And the head of news kind of. Ba ba ba ba ba. Gets himself into alans system and starts playing various messages for me and then showing me how to shuffle through them, how to make sure i didnt delete any by accident. There was no alert to. To the target person. While at the mirror, dan evans hacked hundreds of victims. They had to live with the consequences for years. His confession only came to the public� s attention when he was charged for Phone Hacking. I had no way to regain the ability to look my children in the eye, l unless i did the unthinkable, which was to breach the omerta of fleet street. Speak the truth. I got a message from a lawyer and he said, alan, the metropolitan police want to talk to you because they believe youve been hacked. And i said, hacked . What, me . Hacked . And they informed me that somebody had confessed, i think it was dan evans, that they had been hacking my phone and over a very long period of time. A Group Of Eight people who suspected that they were victims took the fight to the civil court. Based on dan evans testimony and other evidence that emerged, the judge in the case declared that there was widespread Phone Hacking at mirror group newspapers. This company is now going to face a huge bill because there are potentially hundreds of other claims to follow these eight. There are so many people whose phones have been hacked. What i did with the mirror group is only the tip of the iceberg. Hello there. Its been another day with some blustery showers, but also some sunny spells around at times, too. It is set to stay very unsettled as we head through the rest of the week. And its been a very wetjuly so far. In fact, some spots, particularly towards the north and the west and also across central southern england, have seen around one and a half times the average july rainfall so far. Were only halfway through the month. Of course, a lot of months to come and a lot more rainfall, too, particularly over the next few days or so. This is the rainfall accumulation chart. As you can see, around 30 to 50 millimetres more expected as we head through the next few days, especially out towards the west. Now, this is our low Pressure System from this weekend. Its pulling out towards scandinavia. So the winds will tend to lighten further as we head through the overnight period and into tomorrow. Still a brisk northwesterly, though, for much of scotland. Some longer spells of rain, plenty of cloud here throughout the night. Further south, across much of england, wales, Northern Ireland will see some long, clear spells and temperatures will drop lower than they did last night. Its a cooler start to monday morning than we saw earlier on this morning, maybe high single figures where we keep those long, clear spells and then into monday, still plenty of cloud across much of scotland. We could see some more showers here develop as we head throughout the day. Sunny spells and scattered showers elsewhere. Weve still got a key north westerly across northwest scotland, but elsewhere the winds will fall lighter. Watch out for a rumble or two of thunder, particularly later on through the day across the midlands and into parts of lincolnshire, towards the south east of england. We could stay dry for much of the day. Temperatures will be highest here 22, maybe 23 degrees celsius. Now, looking at the wider picture on monday into tuesday, there is another occlusion approaching from the west that is likely to bring us some outbreaks of rain, some of which will turn out to be rather heavy at times across Northern Ireland. Moving into North West England throughout the day, South West England will see this heavy rain turn into showers behind the main weather front. But towards the south east of england, i think it could stay dry again for much of the day. Temperatures here 2a degrees celsius elsewhere underneath the rain in the high teens and the winds are a lot lighter. Now, heres the outlook as we head through the rest of the week. Wednesday, looking largely dry for many a few showers around. It wont feel too bad in the best of the sunshine. It will be turning cooler, though, on thursday with the north westerly winds. The scale of this is enormous. Live from london. Live from london. This is bbc news. This is bbc news. Almost lto people have died almost lto people have died as a result of devastating floods as a result of devastating floods in south korea following days in south korea following days of torrential rain. Of torrential rain. And the world tennis number one and the world tennis number one Carlos Alcaraz beats Novak Djokovic Carlos Alcaraz beats Novak Djokovic in the mens final at wimbledon in the mens final at wimbledon to become the youngest man to lift to become the youngest man to lift the trophy since 1986. The trophy since 1986. The british born actress and singer the british born actress and singer jane birkin has died jane birkin has died at the age of 76 in paris. At the age of 76 in paris. President macron has described her president macron has described her as a complete artist. As a complete artist

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