would it be a sign of success if she does, before the election? i would like to see luciana i feel that she can make that move. another thing rachel reeves said was that she had found it extraordinarily painful when she was rather emotional when she talked to me in that chair, when she was accused of being a traitor to her party. has it been painfulfor you? quite a left—wing student, as i recall, to be accused of being a traitor betraying your party? no. the betrayal is if our party doesn't win an election. i didn't come into politics to talk about betrayal and to have internal fights in the labour party. i came into politics to change lives in germany changed lives by going into power. in my first year as an mp i voted 172 times and we lost hundred and 71. now, you can tweet about it and you get lots of likes, you can pat yourself on the back and say brilliant. but if you lose every vote pretty well every day in parliament, you not change anybody�*s life at all. that sense is where your very different from jeremy corbyn. you're also, to make about the obvious point, rather different from borisjohnson. you accused him recently of corruption.