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Cancel flights at heathrow following yesterdays computer problems. They are telling customers they wont be admitted to terminal five until 90 minutes before the scheduled flight time. We have tried desperately to Contact British Airways and find ground staff and we havent found anybody on the at all. The number of people known to have died in severe flooding in sri lanka has risen, to just over 150. Its thought nearly half a Million People have been forced out of their homes. Now on bbc news, its time for the final edition of our special series nicks election takeaways. On monday, the Bbcs Nick Robinson shared fish and chips with voters in eltham, south east london. The group selected by the pollsters ipsos mori represent some of those who arejust about managing otherwise known as the jams. The people who are in work but still struggle to make ends meet, to pay those bills at the end of the week. How will they make up their minds how to vote . Weve come to the suburbs of south london to find out. Well, its fish and chips for the latest of my election takeaways. We are in the suburbs of south london in eltham with a group of voters who are going to tell us how they are making up their minds who to back at the election. Just to start us off, what issues in this area, before we talk about the country, what things all thinking about when you think of who to vote for . When you are concerned about this area, what are the things that are bothering you, making you make up your minds . The thing im worried about is the School Dinners. Weve had the milk taken, and now theyre going to take the school meals and something about the breakfast. My child has breakfast before she goes to school. How old is your daughter . Shes 12 now. And she gets a Free School Lunch . Yes, her lunch and dinners. So if they take that away. I think for me it has to be health care. If we look at most of the services we get at the moment, take for example the gps, it was easy to get an appointment to go to the gp. Ring up in the morning, you know when you want to go and see them. Now, its whats wrong with you . 0k, call back at 8am. You ring back at 8am, you cant get through. And when you do get through, you get an appointment at 10 30, but youve got to go to work. Theres no way round it. Its a lot harder now to see a gp. We are overstretching accident and emergencies. So having to take myself up to a e which could be looked at by my gp. I work in a school, and i have concerns about the School Dinners which well come to later on. But i also coach at a scheme in stoke newington. One of the biggest things locally is the Knife Epidemic which is very worrying. Whichever party comes in and wins, have to have something steel cast in place to combat that, because its a problem. I work a lot with young children, i work at an Academy School in south london, its a real problem. My head of year spends 60 of her time dealing with social media issues which then spill over into the classrooms, into the playground, into the street, so its an issue. Social media, people losing their temper with each other, and picking fights . Its where it starts. 0nline bullying. When i was at school, many years ago, the bullying started at nine and finished at half three. Nowadays, with social media, its 21w. It doesnt stop. It gets worse and worse. The generation thats coming through lives their lives through a screen, through social media. Are you watching the election much at the moment . Bits and pieces. Its all the same thing really to me. Promises that they never follow through with. U turns. A bit sceptical . Yes. Do you tune in . I do. I listen keenly, because i like to hold people accountable, so i will listen to what youve got to say. Thats fine. When the time comes, if you implement those policies and if you dont, ive got a Starting Point to say well, you did say this in the beginning. The lib dems with the tuition fees cuts. That upset me, even though i was past the student stage, i was fortunate to get through it before this happened, i thought it was a little bit deceitful of them to make such a policy and then do such a u turn on it. I think, day by day, it gathers momentum. I think today you see theresa may, for the first time, start to buckle a little bit under pressure. Also, a couple of weeks back, you had diane abbott in that radio interview. I found it embarrassing listening to that, you know. You all said yes she got her figures so wrong. Did you just think somebody has had a bad day . Like somebody tripping down the stairs . There is no concrete foundation to what they are saying. They are coming in with these wonderful ideas, hooks to get people engaged, but in actual fact they have not thought it through. I looked today and they are talking about tuition fees. How on earth are they going to pay for this . More students than ever wanting people to go to university. Blair in 1997 wanted 50 of students to go to university. Way too many, but people are going. How are they going to afford this . Where is it going to come out from . I want to start the wider conversation a bit byjust asking a little bit about you. If you had to describe how you were, how you were doing in your family, does it feel like its pretty easy at the moment . Things are good, we are in work, things are comfortable, you are shaking your head . Struggling. Every single month, you are constantly thinking can i afford £20 on my 0yster card, £10 on my 0yster card if you want to go out for the evening. Can i afford this . Even when you do the weekly shopping, it comes up to over £100, you are thinking, can something give . You are always plate spinning. Thats what i call it. Simple as that. Youve constantly got multiple financial plates on the go, and you are just balancing. What do you do, alex . Im a teacher. Youre a teacher . Youre on not a bad salary . In london, no. I get home at six at night, having got up at 4 30 in the morning. Thats why there is a teacher shortage. I work with young people. You say not about salary, i disagree with that. You say not a bad salary, i disagree with that. Is it tough times, danielle . I work for the local government. You would say it was a good salary, and a single mum. Childcare costs are joke. Im lucky that im coming back out of that. If i was thinking about having another child at any time. The Childcare Costs alone, they are three times a Mortgage Price almost. I think the problem with salaries of local government, teachers, they havent stayed in the bracket of the increase of what The Cost Of Living has. What about for you . I am struggling every year. I have three children. Three girls 15, nine and four. Its the same for me at the end of the year. You have to take out a loan, an overdraft. What do you do . Security officer. How are things that you have had to give up things you feel you really need . I cant really give my kids 100 . I have to struggle to make them happy. You have to start telling them stories, rosy stories. Stories about why you cant get. Yes. Is that for everyday things . If they want something, and i dont have the money, i have to tell them next week. Had you heard this phrase, just about managing . Yes. Is that you . Yes. I feel blessed sometimes, though, because i wouldnt be able to afford my house now. It has nearly doubled in value. We are managing, and if some people are worrying about how to feed their children, food banks, it makes you think well, theres a whole world under this that are struggling even more. We chose you because you are all just about managings its notjust coincidence. 0r ipsos mori chose you you become more resourceful if you want to go to the football, the cinema or music or the theatre, you think to yourself, how can i do it on a budget . You might think, can i get half Price Tickets . Who is doing all right . You me . mps those with two homes. You are onlyjealous because ive got a Pickled Onion we have had no pay rises but mps have. All the scandals, the public scandals. It in all parts of the public sector. Hospitals are trying their best. Its at the top. I asked you about that phrase, just about managing. If you know you for certain who is, dont say. Do you know who said it . No. Who said that phrase . Churchill. Tom . Id like to sayjeremy corbyn. If it was him, i would be proud. I agree. Theresa may. No way isnt that interesting . She said that these were the people she wanted to help when she came into office. Really . Who does she think they are . Talk is cheap, shell sit round this dinner table with her cronies, and theyll tell you that theyre just about managing with their two houses and their 160 grand cars that we are paying for why are they taking the School Dinners away, then . Thats contradicting yourself there, isnt it . It seems like a race to the bottom in so many areas. Ive got a friend who is a taxi driver. Uber have demolished them. The tax system discourages people from working because the more you work, the more they tax. When i sit down in my house, i start thinking, some people are ready to work, but when you think about it, the tax doesnt feel fair. It doesnt feel fair. They should be encouraging people to work. The more you work the less they tax, thats how it should work. If you want people to work, the less the tax. If you are trying to balance the books each month, do the right thing, working 55 60 hours per week, all of a sudden, you are worse off. It doesnt make sense. Its like quicksand. The more you try, the harder it is to make ends meet. Are you hearing anything from any of the leaders that makes you think they kind of get it . They get it, i like the sound of that idea or they understand my position . I think the nationalisation of Railways Byjeremy Corbyn is something good. When i used to commute to london it was one thing that would always frustrate me. Every year, the fares have been going up, i cant get a seat, and sometimes you couldnt even get on your train, in my head i used to think, ijust want this nationalised, and then it got privatised, and it has gone downhill since. He reminds me of a normal person. He could sit around this table with us. I couldnt see myself eating fish and chips with theresa may, but i could Withjeremy Corbyn. I could say to him, here is my spreadsheet. How do you think i can help you . I would ask him how he could help me. I think his demeanour tells me that he would ask us how we wanted things to be, so if labour came back in, i think before they start doing, they might start asking a bit more. I dont think he has leadership credentials. There isjust something about him. I cant put my finger on it. Dont you admire his honesty, though . Whats honest . He is honest. He lives by a lot of the things he believes in. He has been in politics a very long time. Whether hes a good leader is another matter, but he lives by what he believes. Isa is a big guy you can have fish and chips with the test you set for a Prime Minister . It needs to be someone you can relate to, warm up to and believe what they are selling you. Its like a sales pitch who are you going to go for . I believe him but i felt let down by brexit, i felt like he hid, he disappeared. What have you heard from corbyn so far, other than nationalisation of the railways . And thought, yes, i like the sound of that . Tuition fees, although it seemed unbelievable by september that you could get it through by then. That would be good. Ive got three children, all girls. They all want to go to college. The fees are so high that were not in a position that i could help them as much as i want to. Do you think he can do it . I hope so. Its like you say, you vote for them, and they do a u turn, and you can never tell. I think mathematically it is possible. My only problem is that, in order to do that, does that mean that the Student Loans are going to go up so the cost of paying it back is going to go up . I had ihada i had a student loan. Its taken me a while to pay that back, so im wondering if youre going to subsidise in one area, if you reduce somewhere, then Something Else has to increase. I would like for the nhs to get back to normal, giving nurses a chance. Do you mean pay in the nhs . Yes, nurses are not being appreciated. They should have a pay rise . Yes. I think the police, with this climate, we need more police. Who do you think is more honest with you . Its looking like jeremy, to be honest. I wont lie, i liked theresa may at first, she reminded me a bit in terms of the iron fist of Margaret Thatcher although she destroyed everything. Some other things. Im not going to im not going to lie i tend to gear towards strong people, and i did like theresa at first, but there are too many things that make me think, you called this election, why did you do that . What about promises that the tories have made to help you out . Everything she says puts me off further and further. They say are going through the best for britain with the negotiations for brexit, but we dont know. Shes been singing the Immigration Song for many years. Nothing for you personally . Capping the price of energy . Weve heard that before. Weve been hearing that for years. Petrol is going to be capped. It never does. You like the idea . I like the idea, obviously. It sounds good, but is it going to happen . Thats one of the more obvious points you can rule out. Anyone with half a brain cell would know that were talking about private companies. Since when did anything really work, telling private companies what to do . Its never worked. The rail system, it hasnt worked. The government have tried and tried and tried to intervene, but they are private companies so theyve failed. 0n the energy cap, youre all sounding like youve always voted labour . Has anybody not voted labour . I wish i had. Ive always voted labour. Corbyn is not really for me, massively. So so if you are choosing on the man or the woman . So if you are choosing on the man or the woman . I would pick the woman, if It Wasjust Man or woman. Its the policies, between the two. We vote every four years we should be voting every 14 years, because by the time i look at education again, we have to get the people out, the policy in, by the time youre done, the four years is up. You vote for cameron, you dont much like corbyn . I dont mind him but. But youre thinking of voting labour. The change of policies. How much will they try and pull the wool over peoples eyes . What will tomorrows story be . They keep changing on a daily basis. Who Thingsjeremy Corbyn will be our next Prime Minister . Id like to hope. Nobody said yes. It will be closer than people think. Ill bet you this Pickled Onion. I bet we go into a coalition with labour leading. Who thinks theresa may will win . I think she will win. I dont want her to but i think she will win some more seats. Anybody like some of what they are seeing with theresa may . When theresa may came in, i thought girl power. I thought she was on the money, but for me now, its a trust issue. Shes done a lot of backtracking. Can i trust her . Shes lied about the snap election. Then she turns around, can you trust someone like that . You need someone around you to advise you before you speak. Is it herfault . Is it her advisers fault . Are they sitting down before they make these announcements . Whats the general thinking . That is what i would like to know. It is enough to change your mind . I was sitting on the fence, but now i think i know exactly what im going to do. But could you change your mind again . Is it one of those things where you are shifting each day . I was genuinely sitting on the fence for a while, but now im 100 aware of what im going to do. Which is . Im not telling. What words would you apply to theresa may . I dont think shes stable. Establishment. Gambling. Flaky. Rattled untrustworthy. Professional. You think shes professional . So she can still win you back . When i lookjohn major, everyone slated him. Quite dour. But i think theresa may has the countrys best interests at heart. In terms of todays news, has that been planned . In terms of todays news, has that been planned . I dont think so. I see the similarities withjohn major. Shes not particularly flash. Do you mean that as a compliment . Yes, yeah. Not a big flashy pr machine. Not like borisjohnson. If he was there, forget it. Not for me. I think shes straight down the line. I think she knows what she wants. I think she has the countrys best interests at heart. And for me, thats going a long way. And you have some experience of her . I worked in the police when she was home secretary, and she just used to push things through. She will stick to things, and that scares me. That might be a good thing, it might make her a tough negotiator. M terms of brexit, yes, but in other aspects she could be a bit softer. Things like the nhs, see the Bigger Picture rather thanjust her road map for success. One last question. A lot of you likejeremy corbyn. Is there anything that makes you worry about him . Not really. He hasnt. The only grey area Withjeremy Corbyn and the labour party is theyjust have to get their maths right. Im not even talking about the diane abbott thing, im talking about in general. If you are going to say this and this, then you need to demonstrate where this will come from and how you think you will get this back. You need to know the numbers add up . Thats all it is. Will he get the brexit deal right for us if he goes into power . Thats my concern. Why might he not . I felt like he disappeared when it was kicking off, he disappeared. There was nothing to see that he was putting his back into it. He just wasnt there for me. Would theresa may be good in those brexit negotiations . Shes doing her best, but i think shes stubborn. I dont think we did words for him, we did words for theresa may. One or two words for him, not sentences. Maverick. Friendly. Honest. Genuine. Trusting. Perfect perfect . Interesting. Gut feeling. Thats what you feel good about. Thats what you feel good about . Very good. Thank you all very much for being here. Time to finish off the Pickled Onion. Thats it from this election takeaway. Many places have enjoyed a fine afternoon with variable cloud. It will stay dry across Northern Areas as we head into this evening but rain already across southern areas will continue to move northwards and some of it could be heavy. The satellite picture, there has been plenty of sunshine around. Clouds thickening up. Rain pushing out to france. Its been moving northwards. Bright colours in the radar, indicating a heavier burst. This evening, quite wet through central parts of england in towards wales. The South West Of England is slowly moving northwards, tending to fizzle. Across the north though it will be a dry end to the day, and pleasant conditions in the central belt. 16 or 17 degrees in glasgow. Clouds thickening up through england and in the midlands there will be rain, some can be heavy. Particularly central, southern wales. Winds will remain light across the board. More rain will be pushing into the south west and southern parts of england. Quite a warm and muggy feel. Rain continues to move northwards. An area of rain continues to move northwards, and in the second part of the night, we could see more significant rain moving across the South East Quadrant of england, some of that could be torrential in places with thunder and lightning. All of that spreading its way northwards. A little bit drier moving in across the south later on. Temperature wise, warm and muggy in the south. Cool and fresher for the northern half of scotland. Bank holiday monday, rather cloudy. Damp outbreaks of rain, moving northwards. Some could be thundery in places. In the south, skies will brighten up with sunshine developing but with humid air in the south east it could spark off one oi two showers and thunderstorms. A cooler fresher feel to things further north and west. That area of low pressure pushes away during monday night in towards scandinavia. This feature moves in for tuesday. Brisk winds in the north and the west, and a band of cloud in the rain. Middle of the week, High Pressure moves in and it should turn drier and warmer with good spells of sunshine. This is bbc news. The headlines a 25 year old man is arrested in manchester by Police Investigating last mondays suicide bombing. A search is also being carried out at a house in the moss side area of manchester. The conservatives and labour promise more action to minimise the threat of Terror Attacks in the wake of the manchester bombing. The 22 victims have been remembered at Church Services held across the city this morning. British airways is still having to cancel and delay flights at heathrow, to the fury of passengers, who are not now being admitted to terminal 5 until 90 minutes before departure. Alex cruz, who is the ceo of british airways, i understand hes not doing any media interviews. But i think he should come out of his box and apologise to his customers and resign, ithink

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