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We can ask him about the nine bazillion strikes all the action is in the highlands because Nicola Sturgeon, the First Minister, and the Prime Minister . F the First Minister, and the Prime Minister . J. , the First Minister, and the Prime Minister . J. ,. ,. , minister . Theyre having an informal workin minister . Theyre having an informal working dinner. Minister . Theyre having an informal working dinner. Its minister . Theyre having an informal working dinner. Its a minister . Theyre having an informal working dinner. Its a First Minister . Theyre having an informal working dinner. Its a first Time Minister . Theyre having an informal working dinner. Its a first time or. Working dinner. Its a first time or rishi sunak has been to scotland as Prime Minister. Hes met Nicola Sturgeon before as First Minister, that get together of political figures. Downing street making quite a thing of him being too until liz truss said she would ignore Nicola Sturgeon and then delivered by not even picking up the phone. Rishi sunak� s been to Northern Ireland, this is his first trip to scotland. Right now, there is a desire to be seen to be collaborative. You right now, there is a desire to be seen to be collaborative. Seen to be collaborative. You say that, but i seen to be collaborative. You say that, but i sure seen to be collaborative. You say that, but i sure as seen to be collaborative. You say that, but i sure as night seen to be collaborative. You say that, but i sure as night follows l that, but i sure as night follows day, there is an issue in this relationship and its not about independence for once, but is about the scottish governments power to act independently, and is about this issue where the Scottish Parliament passed a new law that will make it easier for people to get a certificate that shows theyve changed their gender. The uk government is not going down that route for the rest of the uk and theyre talking about various options all either not allowing or even kind of the nuclear option, preventing it becoming law in scotland. , preventing it becoming law in scotland. ,. , scotland. Yeah, so what is known as the scotland scotland. Yeah, so what is known as the scotland act scotland. Yeah, so what is known as the Scotland Act Of scotland. Yeah, so what is known as the Scotland Act Of 1998, scotland. Yeah, so what is known as the Scotland Act Of 1998, the scotland. Yeah, so what is known as| the Scotland Act Of 1998, the modern legal rule book of devolution as far scotland and the uk is concerned lots of different sections section 35 is the capacity for the uk government to say this planned law that has been passed by the Scottish Parliament and what happens after it in that situation is that that law is looked at, and compared at crosstalk if it is, it goes back to scotland, then the king, then becomes an act. If you press the section 35 button, it stops it becoming law. It if you press the section 35 button, it stops it becoming law. It stops it becoming law. It has never been it stops it becoming law. It has never been done it stops it becoming law. It has never been done before. It stops it becoming law. It has| never been done before. Plenty it stops it becoming law. It has i never been done before. Plenty of people in government in the uk At Westminster really dont like the legislation, not least because they say it could have implications beyond scotland, because as they clash between logical station legislations. Put politically, are they willing to press that Massive Button with section 35, it will turbo charge that whole discussion that we saw around the whole desire for a second independence referendum and it is so important to how were governed because it gets to the heart of the very big question where does power live . find heart of the very big question where does power live . Heart of the very big question where does power live . And it proves that constitutional where does power live . And it proves that constitutional stuff where does power live . And it proves that constitutional stuff is where does power live . And it proves that constitutional stuff is not that constitutional stuff is not boring because its how were governed. We can follow up with the government might do with our first guest. It is the culture secretary, michelle donnellan. Guest. It is the culture secretary, michelle donnellan. Good evening. Lovel to michelle donnellan. Good evening. Lovely to see michelle donnellan. Good evening. Lovely to see you. Michelle donnellan. Good evening. Lovely to see you. Well michelle donnellan. Good evening. Lovely to see you. Well talk michelle donnellan. Good evening. Lovely to see you. Well talk about| lovely to see you. Well talk about all things cultural, but on the Gender Recognition Certificate Thing and this sort of looming clash potentially between westminster and scotland, do you know what the government will do . That] scotland, do you know what the government will do . Scotland, do you know what the government will do . All that the e. Ualities government will do . All that the Equalities Minister government will do . All that the Equalities Minister speak government will do . All that the Equalities Minister speak to Equalities Minister speak to herself Equalities Minister speak to herself. And she will do in the coming herself. And she will do in the coming weeks. Im not going to announce coming weeks. Im not going to announce the policy on here, but it is disappointing that Scotland Have. One is disappointing that Scotland Have gone down this road. Is is disappointing that Scotland Have gone down this road. Is it gone down this road. Is it disappointing gone down this road. I; t disappointing because of the potential for the scottish legislation, were it to become an act, to have an impact geographically . I act, to have an impact geographically . Act, to have an impact aaeorahicall . ~. , geographically . I think it would rove geographically . I think it would prove very geographically . I think it would prove very difficult. Geographically . I think it would prove very difficult. There geographically . I think it would prove very difficult. There are l prove very difficult. There are ramifications and we do have to of course ramifications and we do have to of course Look Ramifications and we do have to of course look at that in the constitution of. I know that is being constitution of. I know that is being undertaken at the moment. Whats being undertaken at the moment. Whats your inbox like on the subject . I know it was getting very, very he did last year from all angles. Has that continued or has the fury died it down a bit . Has the discussion become a little more friendly or is it still quite tough . This is not a priority for my constituents. Of all of the topics that are constituents. Of all of the topics that are about at the moment and things are that are about at the moment and things are deeply caring about and they want things are deeply caring about and they want government to react to and be focusing they want government to react to and be focusing on, i dont think this is the be focusing on, i dont think this is the thing be focusing on, i dont think this is the thing that the people of scotland or england want their government focusing on. I think they want to government focusing on. I think they want to focus along the lines the prime want to focus along the lines the Prime Minister announced. So that we can boost the economy and get better paid jobs can boost the economy and get better paid jobs. This is what people are contacting paid jobs. This is what people are contacting me about. You paid jobs. This is what people are contacting me about. Paid jobs. This is what people are contacting me about. You nearly do all five pledges contacting me about. You nearly do all five pledges there contacting me about. You nearly do all five pledges there laughter. All five pledges there laughter lets talk about the Online Safety bill, the new regulations for making sure people are safer online. When is your guess that the bill, a piece of legislation, will actually become and act as in the law where the king stamps it and its now in force . This parliamentary session, so this year this parliamentary session, so this year its this parliamentary session, so this year its always on when they talk about year its always on when they talk about sessions but it will become about sessions but it will become a law about sessions but it will become a law its about sessions but it will become a law. Its notjust me saying that. We also a law. Its notjust me saying that. We also have the Prime Ministers commitment on this. Is we also have the Prime Ministers commitment on this. Is it we also have the Prime Ministers commitment on this. We also have the Prime Ministers commitment on this. Is it true that one of the commitment on this. Is it true that one of the reasons commitment on this. Is it true that one of the reasons this commitment on this. Is it true that one of the reasons this has commitment on this. Is it true that one of the reasons this has taken l commitment on this. Is it true that. One of the reasons this has taken so long to get to where weve got to is the chaos of collapsing conservative governments over the last year . I governments over the last year . I think the key reason why its taking so long. Think the key reason why its taking so long. Cos think the key reason why its taking so long, cos its notjust my predecessors, its several. Could have been predecessors, its several. Could have been one predecessors, its several. Could have been one week predecessors, its several. Could have been one week last predecessors, its several. Could have been one week last year . Predecessors, its several. Could have been one week last year yeah if ou look have been one week last year yeah if you look at have been one week last year yeah if you look at the have been one week last year yeah if you look at the volume if you look at the volume of amendments coming in for next week, that highlights the plethora of different opinions people have on this hilt different opinions people have on this bill. They all wanted to do so to many this bill. They all wanted to do so to many Different Things because its the to many Different Things because its the first time were able to legislate its the first time were able to le. Islate. � its the first time were able to leaislate. �. , its the first time were able to leaislate. � ,. , its the first time were able to leaislate. � ,. , legislate. But could this have been law auicker legislate. But could this have been law quicker and legislate. But could this have been law quicker and protected legislate. But could this have been law quicker and protected children | law quicker and protected children quicker without chaos of the last 12 months . I quicker without chaos of the last 12 months . ~. Quicker without chaos of the last 12 months . ~. ,. , months . I think if it had have become months . I think if it had have loecome law months . I think if it had have become law quicker, months . I think if it had have become law quicker, it months . I think if it had have i become law quicker, it wouldnt initiate become law quicker, it wouldnt initiate the changes that i made personally, so we wouldnt have the protections personally, so we wouldnt have the protections for free speech, the additional protection for children. For the additional protection for children. For the First Time Ever now, social media for the First Time Ever now, Social Media Platforms have to enforce their media platforms have to enforce their own media platforms have to enforce their own age restrictions. At the moment, their own age restrictions. At the moment, theyre all roughly about 13. Moment, theyre all roughly about 15 to moment, theyre all roughly about 13. 1. 6 million children are estimated to use these platforms under estimated to use these platforms under 15 estimated to use these platforms under13. Platforms estimated to use these platforms under 13. Platforms are doing nothing under 13. Platforms are doing nothing about it and because of this bill, this nothing about it and because of this bill, this will happen. You mentioned bill, this will happen. You mentioned changes bill, this will happen. You mentioned changes to bill, this will happen. Ym. Mentioned changes to the legislation for when its back in parliament. One of them is to actually have the power to imprison people who Run Companies if they break the rules. Will the government accept that . Thats in relation to children only, and im thats in relation to children only, and im strongly in favour of bolstering protections. There is already bolstering protections. There is already a bolstering protections. There is already a section on criminal liability already a section on criminal liability in reference to if theyre not providing the information to 0fcorn, not providing the information to ofcom, this goes a stage further. Were ofcom, this goes a stage further. Were looking at the exact wording, making were looking at the exact wording, making sure its workable. Were in conversations with those groups that have out conversations with those groups that have put forward this amendment. They think have put forward this amendment. They think prison is too far too far, though . They think prison is too far too far, though . Far, though . Were in conversations. Far, though . Were in conversations. Im i far, though . Were in i conversations. Im not far, though . Were in conversations. Im not ruling far, though . Were in conversations. Im not ruling out any of conversations. Im not ruling out any of the conversations. Im not ruling out any of the amendments. Im somebody who always any of the amendments. Im somebody who always take sensible approaches to these who always take sensible approaches to these things. How who always take sensible approaches to these things. To these things. How did you feel when ou to these things. How did you feel when you saw to these things. How did you feel when you saw your to these things. How did you feel when you saw your former when you saw your former conservative colleague Andrew Bridgen Tweeting Anti Vax stuff and has now been stripped of his own party quips . has now been stripped of his own party quips . Party quips . I was horrified and taken aback, party quips . I was horrified and taken aback, and party quips . I was horrified and taken aback, and i party quips . I was horrified and taken aback, and i think party quips . I was horrified and taken aback, and i think all party quips . I was horrified and taken aback, and i think all of l party quips . I was horrified and i taken aback, and i think all of my colleagues were completely horrified and shocked. They were notjust deeply and shocked. They were notjust deeply irresponsible, but dangerous, because deeply irresponsible, but dangerous, because we are people in a position of influence, people listen to us, we have many followers on social media we have many followers on social media and we have many followers on social media and we have to be responsible and think media and we have to be responsible and think about the words that we use. Anti semitism has no place in any part use. Anti semitism has no place in any part of use. Anti semitism has no place in any part of our society, especially by those any part of our society, especially by those in any part of our society, especially by those in a position of leadership. Im shocked and horrified leadership. Im shocked and horrified he chose to use those words horrified he chose to use those words he horrified he chose to use those words. He chose to say that in relation words. He chose to say that in relation to words. He chose to say that in relation to covid as well, and i really relation to covid as well, and i really delighted that the party took swift action. You really delighted that the party took swift action. , ~. ,. , swift action. You think it was out and i swift action. You think it was out and l submit swift action. You think it was out and i submit it . Swift action. You think it was out and i submit it . I swift action. You think it was out and i submit it . I believe swift action. You think it was out and i submit it . 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Can straight into it, then it would go it can straight into it, then it would go if it can straight into it, then it would go if it was can straight into it, then it would go. If it was in breach of terms of conditions, which although the platforms have anti sit on Anti Semitism is condition, it will be gone Anti Semitism is condition, it will be gone. One day they implement them, be gone. One day they implement them, one be gone. One day they implement them, one day they wont. They will have to them, one day they wont. They will have to under the bill. The third layer have to under the bill. The third layer of have to under the bill. The third layer of protection is that you will be empowered to pick and choose more of the be empowered to pick and choose more of the content youre seeing so that you dont of the content youre seeing so that you dont have to be bombarded with stuff that you dont have to be bombarded with stuff that you dont want to see. You should stuff that you dont want to see. You should be in the driving seat. We had you should be in the driving seat. We had triple locks recently. Laughter what Andrew Bridgen said was about, he was alleging he had been told by a medical professional that the Covid Vaccine because lots of Heart Problems and people and he described this as the biggest crime against humanity since the holocaust, which is why people refer to that as anti semitic. Im sure a lot of more people have seen it now then when originally tweeted. fin people have seen it now then when originally tweeted. Originally tweeted. On the subect of twitter, originally tweeted. On the subect of twitter. We � originally tweeted. On the subect of twitter, we had i originally tweeted. On the subect of twitter, we had a i originally tweeted. On the subect of twitter, we had a tweet i originally tweeted. On the subject of twitter, we had a tweet from i originally tweeted. 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They can all be| bad for Mental Health, particularly for children, and thats why were introducing for children, and thats why were introducing this bill to get them to do introducing this bill to get them to do what introducing this bill to get them to do what they promised and to ensure to do what they promised and to ensure that they do take down content ensure that they do take down content that is illegal in nature and youre put in the driving seat so youre not subjected to this barrage so youre not subjected to this barrage of things deeply disturbing, notjust barrage of things deeply disturbing, notjust before. What barrage of things deeply disturbing, notjust before. Barrage of things deeply disturbing, notjust before. Not ust before. What do you think the notjust before. What do you think the cost has notjust before. What do you think the cost has been notjust before. What do you think the cost has been to notjust before. What do you think the cost has been to people, notjust before. What do you think the cost has been to people, the. The cost has been to people, the fact that social medias not been as regulated . Fact that social medias not been as reuulated . ,. , regulated . Sometimes, really tragically. Regulated . Sometimes, really tragically. The regulated . Sometimes, really tragically, the loss of regulated . Sometimes, really tragically, the loss of life, tragically, the loss of life, including children. The cost is horrendous. Thats why its so important horrendous. Thats why its so important we get this bill through, and it important we get this bill through, and it does turn people off social media. And it does turn people off social media, like wes was saying. Eurovision is coming. Some people have calling it liverpool. Which doesnt quite roll off the tongue. I assume you will be there that night. I am . ,. , assume you will be there that night. Lam . ,. , i am how much is it costing . 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You have warmed the seed up one of the teaching unions today had a vote of Strike Action. Didnt meet the threshold, what you think that says the Teaching Profession . I think that says the Teaching Profession . Think that says the Teaching Rofession . ~ , profession . I think it says teachers a reciate profession . I think it says teachers appreciate what profession . I think it says teachers appreciate what kids profession . I think it says teachers appreciate what kids have profession . I think it says teachers appreciate what kids have been appreciate what kids have been through appreciate what kids have been through over the last few years, especially through over the last few years, especially with the pandemic and the fact that especially with the pandemic and the fact that so many children were out of school fact that so many children were out of school for so long, and that did have of school for so long, and that did have a toll of school for so long, and that did have a toll on their education, on their have a toll on their education, on their well being. They have a toll on their education, on their well being. They know that striking their well being. They know that striking would just add to that. And teaching striking would just add to that. And teaching is striking would just add to that. And teaching is a vocation. People go into the teaching is a vocation. People go into the Teaching Profession to change into the Teaching Profession to change lives, not to add to the problems change lives, not to add to the problems of young people, so i know thats probably a reason why it wasnt thats probably a reason why it wasnt successful. Thats probably a reason why it wasnt successful. Isnt it the case that its wasnt successful. Isnt it the case that its people wasnt successful. Isnt it the case that its people like wasnt successful. Isnt it the case that its people like paul wasnt successful. Isnt it the case that its people like paul novak wasnt successful. Isnt it the case i that its people like paul novak who seem like theyre running the country rather than you guys . Filtrate country rather than you guys . We live in challenging times, dont we, with inflation going up. I can understand why people feel motivated to strike. Understand why people feel motivated to strike, but thats going to fuel the fire to strike, but thats going to fuel the fire. � i. , to strike, but thats going to fuel thefire. , the fire. Are you guys properly in control . That the fire. Are you guys properly in control . That question, the fire. Are you guys properly in control . That question, who the fire. Are you guys properly in control . That question, who governs britain . When you have disruption as significant of this for millions of people, people might wonder, are you guys really in charge . Guys really in charge . Were absolutely guys really in charge . Were absolutely in guys really in charge . Were absolutely in charge guys really in charge . Were absolutely in charge and guys really in charge . Were absolutely in charge and introducing minimum absolutely in charge and introducing minimum Safety Legislation so we dont minimum Safety Legislation so we dont get minimum Safety Legislation so we dont get a situation again so that people dont get a situation again so that people arent worried about getting an ambulance or not. We shouldnt live in an ambulance or not. We shouldnt live in a an ambulance or not. We shouldnt live in a society where thats even a factor~ live in a society where thats even a factor. ~ live in a society where thats even a factor. ,. , live in a society where thats even a factor. ~ ,. , live in a society where thats even a factor. , i. ,. Live in a society where thats even a factor thank a factor. Thank you very much. Thank ou. Lets a factor. Thank you very much. Thank you lets talk a factor. Thank you very much. Thank you. Lets talk now a factor. Thank you very much. Thank you. Lets talk now to a factor. Thank you very much. Thank you. Lets talk now to one a factor. Thank you very much. Thank you. Lets talk now to one of a factor. Thank you very much. Thank you. Lets talk now to one of those i you. Lets talk now to one of those eo le you. Lets talk now to one of those people who you. Lets talk now to one of those people who might be you. Lets talk now to one of those people who might be running you. Lets talk now to one of those people who might be running the i people who might be running the country this winter. Its paul novak, the relatively new boss of the tuc. Hi novak, the relatively new boss of the tuc. �. , novak, the relatively new boss of the tuc are novak, the relatively new boss of the tuc. Are you novak, the relatively new boss of. The tuc. Are you running the tuc. Hi adam. Are you running the country . The tuc. Hi adam. Are you running the country . I the tuc. Hi adam. Are you running the country . I dont the tuc. Hi adam. Are you running the country . I dont think the tuc. Hi adam. 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Its something theyve been asking for for months. Do you theyve been asking for for months. Do you get theyve been asking for for months. Do you get round the table as well . Kate bell, my assistant general secretary, has met with ministers this week secretary, has met with ministers this week. The beginnings of a more hopeful conversation, but i think were hopeful conversation, but i think were a hopeful conversation, but i think were a long way from a resolution, because were a long way from a resolution, because we were a long way from a resolution, because we cant have promises of am because we cant have promises of jam tomorrow or a technical discussion. All of thats interesting. What were interested interesting. What were interested in is a interesting. What were interested in is a pay interesting. What were interested in is a pay rise for Public Sector workers in is a pay rise for Public Sector workers is in is a pay rise for Public Sector workers. In is a pay rise for Public Sector workers. ,. ,. ,. , workers. Is their grave danger for ou and workers. Is their grave danger for you and the workers. Is their grave danger for you and the union workers. Is their grave danger for you and the union leaders, workers. Is their grave danger for you and the union leaders, as you and the union leaders, as all these disputes carry on and theres no sign of resolutions, inconvenienced or worse in their services lose whatever sympathy they might have for you because itjust drags on and things are not working . I dont get that because the first idont get that because the first thing to i dont get that because the first thing to say is that those punters are actually our members as well. Theyll are actually our members as well. Theyll have Family Members who are paramedic theyll have Family Members who are paramedic or working on the railways paramedic or working on the railways. Our members do use those services railways. Our members do use those services the railways. Our members do use those services. The last thing any of our members services. The last thing any of our members want is to be on strike forever members want is to be on strike forever or members want is to be on strike forever or indefinitely or whatever. But i forever or indefinitely or whatever. But i think forever or indefinitely or whatever. But i think most of the public is born out but i think most of the public is born out of support of the poles of. Im born out of support of the poles of. Im thinking born out of support of the poles of. Im thinking where it goes. I born out of support of the poles of. Im thinking where it goes. Im thinking where it goes. I hope we resolve these im thinking where it goes. I hope we resolve these disputes, im thinking where it goes. I hope we resolve these disputes, but i im thinking where it goes. I hope l we resolve these disputes, but its not at we resolve these disputes, but its not at any we resolve these disputes, but its not at any cost what we want to see us paying not at any cost what we want to see us paying the paul flick pockets of public us paying the paul flick pockets of Public Sector workers. 300,000 vacancies of Public Sector workers. 300,000 vacancies now in social care and the nhs. Vacancies now in social care and the nhs. The vacancies now in social care and the nhs, the governments got to fix that crisis nhs, the governments got to fix that crisis and it will be fixed with that crisis and it will be fixed with a that crisis and it will be fixed with a real terms pay cut. It wont with a real terms pay cut. It wont i with a real terms pay cut. It wont. ~ with a real terms pay cut. It wont. ,. ,. , wont. I speak to people in government and wont. I speak to people in government and they wont. I speak to people in government and they say i wont. I speak to people in government and they say there isnt any more money, and that theory has been tested because the previous Prime Minister tried one way to get more money, which was to borrow, and all hell broke loose. Is there an appetite to pay more tax when the burden is the highest its been in decades and decades . There isnt the money. Plenty of people are also struggling, so i should those in trade unions be handed more . Is trade unions be handed more . Is there an appetite to be more tax . Absolutely not. I think theres an argument absolutely not. I think theres an argument with those with broader shoulders argument with those with broader shoulders too. In spain, they introduced a new tax. We set out if you introduced a new tax. We set out if you taxed introduced a new tax. We set out if you taxed wealth, capital gains, if you taxed wealth, capital gains, if it was if you taxed wealth, capital gains, if it was equalised, it would generate about £15 billion a year. Centrai generate about £15 billion a year. Central care are coining it in and the government could do more to tax them the government could do more to tax them in the government could do more to tax them in. Politics is all about choices. Them in. Politics is all about choices. I them in. Politics is all about choices, ijust think the government made choices, ijust think the government made the choices, ijust think the government made the wrong ones. The choices, i just think the government made the wrong ones. Choices, i just think the government made the wrong ones. The other thing that is sitting made the wrong ones. The other thing that is sitting in made the wrong ones. The other thing that is sitting in the made the wrong ones. The other thing that is sitting in the discussion made the wrong ones. The other thing that is sitting in the discussion is that is sitting in the discussion is this plan to new law around minimum safety or service. A listener might think that seems personally reasonable, and there should be some legal benchmark that ensures if Ambulance Workers are going on strike, certain levels of emergency or provided for and it is written down in law and not cobble together. First of all, is it minimal safety or service . First of all, is it minimal safety or service . The government has been completely or service . The government has been completely disingenuous about that. Crosstalk lets be clear. Its about undermining from the right for workers undermining from the right for workers to take Strike Action. It would workers to take Strike Action. It would mean a paramedic or anybody else in would mean a paramedic or anybody else in our would mean a paramedic or anybody else in our Emergency Services who voted else in our Emergency Services who voted in else in our Emergency Services who voted in a else in our Emergency Services who voted in a Lawful Industrial Action ballot. Voted in a Lawful Industrial Action ballot, being forced to work and if not, potentially facing the sack. The government are suggesting in some the government are suggesting in some way the government are suggesting in some way that those paramedics would in any some way that those paramedics would in any way some way that those paramedics would in any way put the public at harm, i think in any way put the public at harm, i think is in any way put the public at harm, i think is really. I was going to say disingenuous. I think its reprehensible. Say disingenuous. I think its reprehensible. What value is a strike fulfilling reprehensible. What value is a strike fulfilling in reprehensible. What value is a strike fulfilling in the reprehensible. What value is a i strike fulfilling in the Ambulance Service . There has to be for a strike to have effect, taking the service, some calls that are either not answered or answered by others. A service thats on is good for some people as it would be . Riff a service thats on is good for some people as it would be . A service thats on is good for some people as it would be . Of course the service isnt people as it would be . Of course the service isnt as people as it would be . Of course the service isnt as good, people as it would be . Of course the service isnt as good, but people as it would be . Of course the service isnt as good, but we people as it would be . Of course the service isnt as good, but we know. Service isnt as good, but we know our Ambulance Services and crisis every our Ambulance Services and crisis every day our Ambulance Services and crisis every day. Is our Ambulance Services and crisis every day our Ambulance Services and crisis eve da. ,. ,. ,. , every day. Is not an argument to be had. Its every day. Is not an argument to be had its a every day. Is not an argument to be had. Its a separate every day. Is not an argument to be had. 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Weve seen a drier, sunnier kind of day today with not as much rain around, but despite the drier weather, well, weve still got cause for concern in terms of flooding. This was a picture from the hills. You can see flooding of low lying fields, i think caused by the river severn. Lots of Flood Warnings in force, and the majority of these are for stretches of the river severn. Now, weve got more heavy rain to come overnight and into saturday. Its going to come from this developing area of low pressure thats just moving in at the moment. The rain turns really widespread and heavy across england and wales, where over the hills, we could be looking at another 70 millimetres of rain. This could make the flooding far worse as we head into the first part of saturday morning. And over recent days, we have seen some transport disruption, the floods affecting roads and railways. We might see something similar heading into saturday morning. Now, the good news is the rain does eventually start to clear out of the way with brighter weather following. But still, it could get worse in terms of flooding for some communities. Rain tucks into scotland, Northern Ireland and north west england, with Gale Force Gusts of wind developing here through saturday afternoon. And it will start to turn cooler for many areas, but still mild across east anglia in the south of england, where temperatures will reach 12 celsius. However, the second half of the weekend, Colder Weather is going to be moving its way in with the air coming down from polar regions, ultimately. There is a big drop in temperatures on the way. Now, for sunday, many areas will have a bright day with some sunshine, a weak Weather Front bringing some thicker cloud, a few splashes of rain across parts of northern england, midlands, wales, Northern Ireland. Showers in northern scotland turning wintry, and here temperatures just around 3 4 celsius. Even in the south, its going to feel quite a bit colder than it has done with highs of 8 celsius. Into next week, what we do know quite a bit about the weather, it is going to be colder, there will be widespread frost with some icy patches, and there will be snow showers that come all the way down to low elevations. But there are still some differences to be worked out between the models. Take sunday night, for example, this is one scenario, heavy snow showers for northern scotland, could have some wintry showers across england and wales. However, there are different models that actually produce a deeper area of low pressure sunday night across england and wales, and that could bring a zone of disruptive snow that would be around into monday mornings rush hour. Still some uncertainty, but were watching this very carefully. This is bbc news with the headlines. Russia claims its forces have captured the ukrainian town of soledar , but kyiv insists severe fighting is still ongoing. 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