nonexistent everywhere. we do not all kind of sit round and discuss our losses, it is just that absolute knowledge that everyone has experienced what you're going through. what are partners, particularly men, up against when it comes to dealing with this kind of loss? this toxic masculinity, "big boys don't cry, man up." it is the stereotype of being strong for your partner, isn't it? - yes. you are listening to the dads still standing podcast and we are about miscarriage, stillbirth, baby loss. two of the football players have also set up a podcast where they are increasingly hearing from people all around the world. so, we are going to be talking to raul navarrojr, he is one of our followers on instagram. raul has been in touch from california. to be honest, i did not have much support at all. - the hardest part i think is people wanted to dismiss it, you know. i
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