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so the challenge is so much more difficult. and that's why it's so much more important that we actually win hearts and minds about nature, but we also address things from the highest level. the land use strategy of my country is not aligned to the conservation strategy and that's why we're seeing megafarms in conservation. ah, well, but what you're saying is so interesting because ijust wonder if in any way you regret the degree to which you have held out the sort of hand of friendship and alliance to the political leadership in your country? you know, kenyans, more than anybody else will remember that you were friendly with the president's wife as you launched this campaign. you were so pleased when the president undertook that photo opportunity and burned hundreds of tonnes of ivory in front of the tv cameras. in a sense, you've helped him deliver a message that he and his government are true carers about conservation and maybe that isn't quite the truth?

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