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president zuma, who had been convicted of contempt of court. but there are clearly bigger forces at work here. what is your sense of what is driving these protests? an extraordinary confluence of events, a power strugglej within the ruling anc with all the latent dissatisfaction - of a really bad economic experience, massive - unemployment, huge inequality, poverty, l plus, the ever—presence of covid _ shocking rates of cases - and very low vaccination rates. let's be clear, the reports. coming out of south africa, it is very clear now that there | was an attempt by supporters ofjacob zuma, in various ways, to try and destabilise _ the government. so, some of it was organised? no, no, a lot- of it was organised. it hasn'tjust been shopping - centres that have been attacked and looted, it's also been specific oil refineries, - hospitals, specific economic routes where lorries - have been torched.

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