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A split between the top and bottom as the premier league makes plans for the restart. Clubs at the top are happy to play out the season at neutral venues, but those near the bottom like brighton want the threat of relegation removed. Wright of relegation removed. Not as much rain around th week wright not as much rain around this week are compared with last and it is set to get a bit warmer. Not as much rain around. I will have more details later on breakfast. Its monday the 4th of may. Our top story new rules to help businesses emerge from lockdown are being considered by the government. Under draft proposals, employers would need to stagger start times and limit the amount of equipment that needs to be shared. Workplaces would also be asked to provide ppe if the two metre social distancing rules cant be observed. Andy moore reports. As we enter how sixth week of lockdown, deserted streets, like here in leeds, are all part of our new normal, but the government is now looking at how we move out of the current restrictions. The Prime Minister is not set to publicly outline proposals for easing lockdown just yet, but employers are already being consulted about a possible way forward. As part of a draft proposal, the two metre rule may be relaxed in cases where it cannot be observed, to be replaced by other means of keeping workers safe, such as physical screens and ppe. Under the plans, employers will be urged to stagger start and finish times to take pressure off public transport. Under the plans, employers will be urged to stagger start and finish times to take pressure off public transport. Workers considered vulnerable would be put in the safest possible roles in the workplace. People who can work from home would be urged to continue doing so. That means many offices would remain closed. It is all part of a very cautious approach to easing the lockdown to avoid a second wave. The British Public have shown amazing stoicism and understanding of the need for the lockdown measures and, quite rightly, they want to ensure that, if and when they are eased, that their eased in a way that makes sure that the british peoples sacrifice has been worthwhile and that we continue to operate in a way which means the Public Health comes first. Another 315 coronavirus deaths were reported yesterday, across the uk, in all settings, bringing the total number of fatalities to 28,446. Today, borisjohnson willjoin an International Initiative to raise billions of pounds to fight coronavirus. He will say that stopping the pandemic is the most urgent shared endeavour of our time. It is humanity against the virus, he says, and together we will prevail. Andy moore, bbc news. Lets speak now to our Political Correspondent helen catt, who joins us from westminster. Helen, its a big week coming up, with the Prime Minister expected to address the nation on sunday . Yes, thats right. Legal moment of the week on thursday and that is the date the government has to do it next review of the lockdown restrictions. He has to do it by 21 days every 21 days and the next date falls on the seventh of may was up date falls on the seventh of may was up we wont hear what those plans or proposals are until on sunday where borisjohnson will set out proposals are until on sunday where Boris Johnson will set out what they call a roadmap. What we expect, some general ideas about how we might be getting out of lockdown over time. What we expecting is any of overnight massive lifting of restrictions. You heard in andy moores report, the language the government has been using the recent weeks of the new normal was up that they will be still measures in place and it will be a long process so place and it will be a long process so that is what we expect to happen over the week. In terms of the agenda for today, there is a Global Online summit cohosted by the Prime Minister. The one thing the government has been really clear about is to get back to actual normal, if you like, it will need to be via having a vaccine or effective treatment for covid 19 so today, rossjohnson will treatment for covid 19 so today, ross johnson will co host this call with a number of Different Countries in trying to develop a vaccine internationally Boris Johnson. The uk will put in £388 million in aid funding towards treatment, vaccines and tests. He will also exhaust, we understand other countries, to Work Together. Andy moore talked about it being the most urgent shared endeavour of our lifetimes. The other parties on that call are going to be canada, france, germany, italy, japan, norway, saudi arabia and the eu commission, we understand was talking about global effort, there is no us, there is no rush, there is no china. But the idea is to try and share expertise and funds to try and develop a vaccine. Thanks very much, helen. We will talk to the defence secretary ben wallace at seven to dump 7. 30. President trump has said he believes the United States will have a vaccine for coronavirus by the end of the year. He said he had done a greatjob managing the pandemic, and dismissed claims he failed to act quickly enough. Lets speak now to our north america correspondent david willis. David, what did we learn from his tv appearance . He talked about that vaccine which normally of course take years to develop for this to sort of virus. In deed there is still no vaccine available for either hiv or the ebola virus and white house medical experts have predicted it could be a year and probably 18 months before there is a vaccine to deal or combat there is a vaccine to deal or combat the coronavirus. But President Trump said it could be sooner than that. Indeed he said it would be sooner than that. This is what he had to say on fox news. By the end of this year. We think we are going to have a vaccine by the end of this year and we are pushing very hard because we Building Supply lines now and we dont even the final vaccine. We have Many Companies, i think are close. With the heads of them, i find it a very interesting subject, because it is so important. President trump painted the picture ofan President Trump painted the picture of an incredible future for this country, as he put it, with the economy bouncing back strongly at the start of next year. Indeed, universities and schools, he said, will probably start to reopen here as early as september. David willis, thank you very much. Italy is easing its National Lockdown today the worlds longest of the coronavirus pandemic. Takeaways and parks are reopening, funerals can resume and some businesses are restarting. But the shutdown has left deep scars in a country with already serious economic problems, as our correspondent mark lowen reports. Italy is starting to reopen but champion pizza maker, teresa iorio, cant. With new rules only allowing takeaway for now, she will need more time to adaptand, after eight weeks of lockdown, she has taken such a financial hit that her business will struggle to survive. Translation it would be better to die than not to reopen, because it would kill my dreams for which ive sacrifices my life. It would mean losing my livelihood because my life is my work. I open the shutters in the morning and this is money for my sister, my niece, for me to live. A city of pizza, of spirit, of tattered beauty and past glories has been pummelled by the worlds longest lockdown of the pandemic. We were taken to see one of the roughest parts of one of the eus poorest regions and, in a place where the mafia typically profits from poverty, theres a fear they are doing it again. Until about 10 years ago, this was a no go zone for police, proving an image of social decay. But security has improved and yet this crisis has reawa kened long standing concerns about organised crime preying on hardship and it is what many other property hit areas well beyond italy could face too, as the lockdown leaves its scars. Carpenter, raffaele, tells me he has not worked in almost three months and may have to sell his television to get by. Theres been lots more crime since the lockdown, he says, even kids dealing drugs and stealing cars, since theres no work and they need to eat. Fighting the resurgence of the neapolitan mafia, the camorra, is this ngo, run by a priest, under police protection. They make up boxes of supplies for those in need, to stop criminal groups from stepping in instead. Translation the camorra is taken advantage of this current vacuum. They have always exploded italys moments of weakness and this is one of those moments. They provide help to people but then ask them to deal drugs in exchange or give them money. We have to give citizens the antibodies to defend themselves, to stop the camorra from reclaiming this territory. Singing. In the old town, musical solidarity, baskets hung to take donations from those who can, and give to those in need. A Health Crisis has become a social and economic one. The swansong of a lockdown that has halted the virus but wounded this country. Mark lowen, bbc news, naples. That is the picture in italy. Hairdressers and barbers in germany are being allowed to reopen today, for the First Time Since the lockdown was imposed six weeks ago. Customers and staff will have to wear masks, and therell be no hot drinks or magazines on offer, because of the risk of infection. Many businesses say theyre booked up for weeks in advance. You we can see why, cant we . M you we can see why, cant we . It is exactly what is going to happen here. We have got a hairdressing scissors, dont we . Were entering our seventh week of lockdown, and for most of us, life has been disrupted beyond recognition. As we wait to hear the governments strategy for eventually easing restrictions, many of us have been reflecting on our time at home, and our hopes for the future. Graham satchell has been hearing some of your stories. Superhuman girls, superhuman girls, there is nothing they cant do. Six weeks of lockdown through the eyes of six different people. Nine year old bella has spent much of the time dancing . She has also paid tribute to the nhs. What do you think of the doctors and nurses at the moment . Well, they are amazing and they are really super because yeah, they really help right now. This week, well learn more about the governments plans to ease the lockdown. All shops, businesses, schools, reopen . Ellas mum kirsty is nervous. I think we just sort of adapted to being at home now and the thought of going back to normality. This is bellas grandma christine. She has been busy volunteering, delivering food and prescriptions but she misses her grandchildren. He were here every day, every day, sometimes the four of them together. They were here every day. The quietness now is. Is so different. Is it hard not being able to have physical contact . This is the thing that is so strange about all this, isnt it . Yes, that is probably the hardest part is missing holding them, you know . And paddling them. Cuddling. Missing holding them, you know . And paddling them. Cuddling. Ive taken medication but it has made me vulnerable because my immune syste m me vulnerable because my immune system has lowered was not this man has been told he needs to shield for at least 12 weeks and he is also missing his grandchildren. My my granddaughters give me life. On a couple of occasions, i see them at a distance. We live on the top four of the mansion block top floor. I waved to them. Time to get back to normal, isnt it . You think it is time to get back to normal . Oh i think we need some degree of normality back in our lives. I am looking forward to the day we dont need masks and we dont need to be overcautious. In london, jack has no problem seeing his grandmother eileen, they are living together. Problem seeing his grandmother eileen, they are living togetherlj think we have had a few couple of run ins when it was bad weather. When we are locked inside. You cant get out. Eileen had major surgery in january and is also nervous about lockdown restrictions being relaxed i dont think i am ready for that. Im still vulnerable. I have nurses coming in, im not ready to go out. Jack is a professional chef. Youll make it my area clean. He worked in 5 star hotels in london but has been laid off. He has been running a weekly live cooking online. |j been laid off. He has been running a weekly live cooking online. I would love jack to have some break from me. And be able to go out. Break from you . Laughs. Ifeel guilty me. And be able to go out. Break from you . Laughs. I feel guilty that he is locked in but he wont do it. He wont go out. The risk versus the reward is, it is not worth it at all. The delivery of sunday dinners. Christine has come to drop off shopping and say hello from a safe distance. She is desperate to cuddle her grandchildren but as a nurse of the 40 her grandchildren but as a nurse of the a0 years, she is also prepared to wait until she is told it is safe. I think if people really understood how many people have lost their lives and been affected by this and be even worse, than that is enough of a reminder that we need to do this slowly. That was Graham Satchell reporting. So many discussions at this point, going into our seventh week, lots of people feeling anxious about how we get back to normal. Just talking to you this morning, wasnt i, imagine going on a packed train again or an office. When youre in a park at the minute walking your dog, you automatically walk away from people, and reversing that psychology is hard. Lets take a look at todays papers. The Daily Telegraph previews the Prime Ministers speech to an Online International conference, where hell describe the race to develop a vaccine as the most urgent shared endeavour of our lifetimes. It also includes a picture of a priest in germany, where Church Services have restarted with strict social distancing rules. He was standing outside with hand sanitiser for everyone coming in. The guardian says ministers are in talks with Tech Companies over the possibility of creating health passports, as a potential way of ensuring some employees can get back to work. The passports could, in theory, tell if a worker has had the virus or not. The sun has more details from an interview with the Prime Minister, which was First Published yesterday. It says the fear of never seeing his new son gave him the strength to beat the virus. And online, the metro examines claims made by us president , donald trump, about a possible vaccine being ready by the end of the year. That was in an interview he did with fox news. This is from the times. No, the guardian, this is about dogs, and a warning from the dogs trust, a dog is for life and notjust warning from the dogs trust, a dog is for life and not just for the lockdown after online searches for getting a puppy surged by 120 , concerned the increased interest in getting a dog could be followed by a spike in people giving up their new pets when normality resumes. Scotties are now the favourite dogs of the moment. We can go for a dog triple, three dog stories. A craze that started in time one a p pa re ntly a craze that started in time one apparently and is now being seen on social media. It is called round dog, cutting your dogs hair so that it goes round. Can you see that . Creative dog lovers have had their little darlings groomed to perfection with the end result being an eye catching illusion that their dogs head is a perfect circle. Why you would want to do that is slightly beyond me, but there you 90, slightly beyond me, but there you go, people get up to all sorts and heres another one, i said dog, i didnt mean dog, i meant heres another one, i said dog, i didnt mean dog, i mean t tiger. You do the tiger. The story is armed police and a helicopter were scrambled after reports of a tiger on the loose in kent. There you can see, dan, picture of said tiger. Officers were called to the scene before 10 30am on saturday. Juliet symptom. Who is here it is a sculpture of a tiger out of resin and chicken wire. She said her son, duncan, ran up and said there is armed police on the hill leading up to my house, i saw a helicopter and i wont up the road and said to the police land rover, do you want to be introduced to this tiger . Its been there for many years, beside a footpath for 20 years, a cyclist called the police and they were told to move on in case of danger. Could be something new to the area. Very realistic. Very impressive as well. It is may the fourth today, star wa rs it is may the fourth today, star wars day, may the fourth be with you, my wifes birthday, happy birthday, mrs walker, who is asleep today. What are you doing with your family . We are watching the whole of star wars. Where are you . We started chronologically, wejust star wars. Where are you . We started chronologically, we just episode seven. The force awakens . Have you seen them before . Yes. I always want to check that. Seen them before . Yes. I always want to check that. You dont realise that the first film i ever went to see was the first star wars movie. |j cant believe we havent spoken about star wars before this programme. How do you feel about the first three chronologically to the others . Are they still as bad as you thought they were at the time . The story is so good because it sets it up story is so good because it sets it up brilliantly. Anyway. Loved that what is your favourite . Are you an original one . Yes, obviously. They stand the test of time. 100 thats stand the test of time. 10096 thats what weve been doing in lockdown. Ive tried to convince my kids to watch star wars, but no luck when is fashion going to get back to normal . A model rehearsing in beijing yesterday, and guess what, of course, facemask and now on the ca twa lks of course, facemask and now on the catwalks as well. We just dont know whats going to happen. Talking about not knowing whats going to happen, the return of the premier league may be at some stage and sally will be talking about this this morning, theres talk of neutral grounds being used and a discussion going on between various teams in the premier league about whether thats going to work and who it will benefit. Sally will be looking at that this morning. I think she will be speaking to brighton striker glenn murray as well, they are one of the teams back in training last week and how theyre doing that. We had a chat with him on football focus at the weekend and each player has their own half which they use, that is how socially distant they are at the moment. Tell us your thoughts, get in touch and in about ten minutes we are speaking to agp, so if you got any concerns for them, let us know a gp. While schools being shut has been a Welcome Break for some children, for others, the restrictions are bringing new struggles. The charity, adoption uk has released new figures that show an increase in anxiety and violence among adopted children since lockdown began. Dan johnson has more. Weve had lots of angry episodes from our child. The way they behave has kind of become apparent when the lockdown came down theia based angry behaviours which come out as violence, destruction, ripping things up, destroying toys. And he has been violent towards me. Hes scared, hes told us hes scared mummy and daddy are going to die of coronavirus, and hes also scared that he is also going to get it as well. What shall we make out of this . Rachel and her husband are feeling the strain of life in lockdown with their five year old son. The strain of life in lockdown with theirfive year old son. Hes the strain of life in lockdown with their five year old son. Hes got emotional needs and would normally get extra support at home and at school. Hes a lovely little boy, we love him beyond measure, but we dont always know how to help him, and thats the issue with a lot of looked after children, so hes probably been through a lot more trauma than many adults will ever in their life. So trying to cope with that emotion when youre in lockdown is really, really hard. Ben is bringing up five children, all with disabilities or special needs, and hes on his own. His baby son, teddy, died just before christmas, but he adopted again two weeks ago. We we re but he adopted again two weeks ago. We were coping, as strange as it may seem. We were coping, as strange as it may seem. Single dad with, you know, caring for five children with additional and complex needs, that seems a handful, but im actually really enjoying family time. I cant say im the best teacher in the world, but were just getting on. Ben decided to shield his family seven weeks ago, which has meant turning down practical support. For me, my Childrens Health and well being for me, my Childrens Health and well being is for me, my Childrens Health and well being is paramount, for me, my Childrens Health and well being is paramount, and im worried as a parent, am i doing these things right . Tailored physiotherapy for each of the children, ami physiotherapy for each of the children, am i doing these things right . Children, am i doing these things right . Although a children, am i doing these things right . Although a lot of the support that im receiving virtually, because everyonesjust had to adapt virtually, it isnt the same as hands on care. For some families, this is a really positive time theyre able to bond without the usual stresses of everyday life but weve heard about parents who are struggling so much that their adoption could be at risk of breaking down altogether. And for so many families, the longer this goes on, the more the pressure builds. The thought of further lockdown is filling me with dread really if im totally honest, because the thought of another few weeks of what weve already experienced, and again, not having those services in place, is really tough. Caring for the children is no problem. You know, i can do that with my eyes shut. But for me, its the getting out. I will never, ever ta ke the getting out. I will never, ever take socialising for granted ever again, everagain take socialising for granted ever again, ever again that is for sure ive not seen passed this garden for seven weeks, and its just. Itsjust garden for seven weeks, and its just. Its just strange garden for seven weeks, and its just. Itsjust strange and surreal and worrying. And i do go to bed of a night and surreal and worrying. And i do go to bed ofa night and i surreal and worrying. And i do go to bed of a night and i am scared, and lam bed of a night and i am scared, and i am worried for my Childrens Health and well being, i am worried for my Childrens Health and well being, but i am worried for my Childrens Health and well being, but weve just got to work through it, and hopefully, you know, things will resume to normality sooner rather than later. And the very best of luck to him as well looking after all those children. Thanks to everyone who spoke to us for that piece this morning. It is ve day this coming friday and weve had a look the Weather Forecast over the weekend. Mat, good morning, 23 degrees i saw somebody predicted for friday, so whats it looking like for the rest of the week . It is. Things warming up for the rest of the week, as dan rightly mentioned, last week temperatures dipped away and this week they are on the rise, at least for a time, tempered by strong winds in the south, but a fair bit of sunshine and not a huge amount of rain in the forecast with some staying largely dry. Looking at the big picture on monday, were going to have to watch this weather system getting close to the south west tomorrow but High Pressure is building at the moment, keeping things largely dry, but the tail end of a cold front in eastern of scotla nd tail end of a cold front in eastern of scotland and eastern england, so here we are most likely to rain this morning with the odd heavier burst. Some patchy drizzle and light rain in the south initially but even here, skies will clear and a fair bit of sunshine to come. In the afternoon, sharp showers developing in eastern counties of england especially and even here some will stay completely dry and away from it, afair stay completely dry and away from it, a fair bit of sunshine for the afternoon. Feeling quite pleasant in the sunshine temperatures in the upper teens for the south and west. A bit cool in the eastern coast, 103 a bit cool in the eastern coast, 10 3 degrees by and large. That showers in the east will this all away tonight, mostly dry night to come, but for the Channel Islands, devon and cornwall, heavy and potentially thundery rain moving up through the night and into tomorrow morning. With clear skies elsewhere, a chilly start on Tuesday Morning with a touch of frost around plenty of dry and sunny weather. A windier day in the south and outbreaks of rain heaviest in the south west of south wales in the morning. Some splashes in other southern counties of and wales but most of it will fizzle out for the majority into the afternoon. Further north, lighter winds, sunshine out, well start to temperatures climbing a bit, we could see 17 or 18 for instance in the western half of scotland. A cooler dave for the south and south west with the wind. Tuesday night into wednesday, that weather front gradually fizzles away and High Pressure by and large in charge. Winds turn lighter as you see the isobars becoming fewer for many, so a warmer, sunnier day for the vast majority on wednesday with still the chance of an isolated shower in cornwall and maybe pembrokeshire, with the cloud drifting northwards across ireland. For most, sunshine from dawn to dusk and temperatures responding accordingly high teens or maybe low 20s in one or two spots. Warming up low 20s in one or two spots. Warming up further into thursday, temperatures peaking around 23 in the south east, 19 or 20 in some parts of scotland. As we go through the end of the week, through the weekend and into the start of next week, temperatures and taking a big tumble and by sunday, well below average for the time of year. But certainly this week, things turning warmer. Quite. 23. 23 down to ten. See you later. Hello. This is breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. Well bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment. But also on breakfast this morning. Well meet the woman, who says covid 19 saved her life, after doctors treating her for the virus discovered she had a rare undiagnosed condition. Also this morning, the boss of one of britains biggest home builders, Taylor Wimpey, will speak to us about restarting work. Well meet again. And later, well bejoined by katherinejenkins, whos performing at a special behind closed doors concert at the Royal Albert Hall to mark ve day. Heres a summary of todays main stories from bbc news. The government is looking at new rules to help businesses emerge from lockdown. Under draft proposals, employers would need to stagger start times and limit the amount of equipment that needs to be shared. Workplaces would also be asked to provide ppe if the 2 metre social distancing rules cant be observed. Companies, businesses and unions had until 10pm last night respond to the government plans. Donald trump has insisted hes done a great job managing the coronavirus pandemic in america, despite claims he failed to act quickly enough. Hes been taking questions from the public as part of a televised meeting on fox news. The president also said he believes the us will have a vaccine by the end of the year. His medical advisers say it could take 18 months before one is ready. People in italy will be allowed out of their homes for exercise or to visit relatives from today as the county begins to ease its lockdown. Takeaways and parks are reopening, funerals can resume and some businesses are restarting. It comes the day after the country registered its lowest daily number of coronavirus related deaths since its restrictions started two months ago. Its time now for us to explore the latest coronavirus developments with the help of a gp. Today we can say hello to dr hamed khan, who is in south london. Good khan, who is in south london. Morning. Thank you us. Good morning. Thank you forjoining us. Looking ahead, we understand the Prime Minister is likely to make a speech this sunday about how to ease out of lockdown. Speaking to your patients, how concerned are people about the way we come out of lockdown . People are understandably very concerned about how it will all pan out once lockdown eases. I am expecting the social distancing emphasis we have had so far in terms of people staying two metres apart from each other and minimising unnecessary contact and the emphasis on hand hygiene and washing your hands diligently and frequently will all continue. So i am expecting that all continue. So i am expecting that a lot of the measures that have been advised at the moment will continue to remain. I am also expecting that a lot of Public Institutions and places where people gather and so on will have rules and regulations to allow this to be done within then, for example, schools and universities will most probably find a way of enabling students and pupils to adhere to the guidelines. One of the many difficult things would be, for example, transport. Would people be concerned by that . |j havent would people be concerned by that . havent spoken to anyone who has been concerned at the moment. People are very much focused on adhering to current guidelines and current rules and certainly people i have spoken to who do not have that as a primary concern at the moment. Most are worried about the possibility of acquiring covid 19. As the lockdown eases, people will understandably get concerned about that, i expect. Mark is asking you, how easy is it to get a test if you need it . Certainly, in terms of health care workers, i am aware if you have symptoms, we as Health Workers can speak to line managers and my understanding is that we can arrange a test that way. I am not sure how it is working for non healthcare workers at the moment. There has been a great emphasis on increasing test numbers. I understand the official government website has information on this. It is becoming easier as time goes on is my understanding. There has been a lot of discussion about face and whether member of the members of the public, it is effective, what is your view . There are a number of aspects, arguments in favour and against. The arguments in favour are very straight forward, a mask is a barrier. If you are infected, a mask can barrier. If you are infected, a mask ca n p reve nt barrier. If you are infected, a mask can prevent you transmitting droplets to others and prevent you from spreading the infection to other people. If you are not infected, the mask can prevent you from getting infected. That is the very straightforward principle of how the mask should work. The arguments against are a little more su btle arguments against are a little more subtle but important nonetheless. One of the points that people make is if you have a mask on, you will be more likely to touch your nose or your face be more likely to touch your nose or yourface and be more likely to touch your nose or your face and conversely ironically that can increase the risk of you acquiring an infection compared with not wearing a mask. If you do wear a mask it is important you wear it properly. When i have been out and about shopping in supermarkets and so on, i have often seen people Wearing Masks which had slipped below their noses and mouth, or both, and that renders the mask ineffective. Other concerns people have had are related to the safe disposal of masks. If you are contaminated mask that can increase the risk of you picking up the infection and wearing the right type of mask so the space between the threads are not bigger than the size of the droplets, if you see what i mean. We need guidance on that but it is well known that a lot of countries have started either advising or recommending, or enforcing, the use of masks. The centre for Disease Control in the us has mentioned that is correct. I expect very much that we may well be heading in that direction as well as time progresses. Interesting to hear you talking about all your different thoughts on that. You also work in a paediatric department, an a e department. What concerns do you have, particularly with Young Children in particular . Something most paediatric a e departments have seen most paediatric a e departments have seen is the number of children generally coming in has reduced and what most Paediatric Emergency teams are trying to emphasise to the general public, if you have a child who is unwell, acutely unwell and has acute symptoms, such as those related to an asthma attack although is related to sepsis all that sort of thing, then it is really important to make sure they get seen andi important to make sure they get seen and i think there have been reports asi and i think there have been reports as i understand, of some children presenting very late compared to how they would usually present and i think wejust need they would usually present and i think we just need to remind people that have course covid 19 is awful, it can have potentially catastrophic consequences and so on it can have potentially catastrophic consequences and so on but it is important to retain some perspective. The vast majority of people with covid 19, around 80, 80 596, people with covid 19, around 80, 80 5 , have mild symptoms. There are other non covid illnesses which are also incredibly awful and can have potentially fatal consequences. It is important that if you need to be seen is important that if you need to be seenin is important that if you need to be seen in a e or your child needs to be seen in a e they are seeing because there are serious non covid illnesses as well. The outcome of the fear of covid 19 must not be worse than the actual outcomes of covid 19. Worse than the actual outcomes of covid19. Thank you for your time here this morning. Thank you for the questions you send in every day. Normally about this time, we have a chat with sal, dont we . What has been going on . A split is emerging between the clubs at the top of the premier league and the clubs at the bottom, as discussions continue on project restart. A growing number of premier league clubs are open to playing their remaining fixtures at neutral venues. But some clubs in the lower half of the table want the threat of relegation removed. There is general agreement that using neutral stadiums will be the only way to complete the season. Some agreement there. Footballers in italy can return to individual training today, with Team Training set to resume on the 18th may. If successful, there are hopes fixtures in italys top division could be completed, although matches are likely to be behind closed doors. Clubs in belgium have decided to postpone their vote for a third time on whether the top league should be cancelled. The vote was due to take place today but has now been pushed back until may the 15th. While teams in the top divisions around europe begin to work out how they might resume their season, its a very different story for those with smaller budgets. Theres a growing concern that many Football League clubs and their players will face serious financial implications, the longer the uncertainity goes on. Andy swiss reports. The glamour and the glory. This is how we normally think of football. But scratch below the premier league surface, how is life in lockdown . Well, Accrington Stanley is like clubs up and down the land the turnstiles shut, the fixture list unfulfilled. One of the smallest clubs in the Football League, its confident it can survive the crisis, but their captain, whose contract runs out next month, has plenty think about. Ive got two young kids at home and my wife. My eldest is three and my youngest is seven months. So, they have been tough work in lockdown. We have got the mortgage, you know, cars to pay for. The bills that Everybody Needs to pay. So, any kind of financial concerns, which has been brought on heavily by this coronavirus, it brings them to the forefront, and just the not knowing when this is going to end, or when you are going to get an answer to when the season is going to come back, or if the season is going to come back. Or, you know, when a new contract is going to be in place, if a new contract is going to be in place, its the waiting that is the most difficult part. Well, for clubs like Accrington Stanley, these are certainly challenging times. Lower league teams normally rely on ticket sales for their income, but for nearly two months now, the terraces here have been empty. So, what now . Well, the premier league is hoping to resume for the tv cameras, but without fans to sustain them, the lower leagues could be in for a long wait. For the first time, im finding it very difficult to see this season being finished. It is very difficult to see anything but football crowds being one of the last things to be sanctioned, and rightly so, but one of the last things to being sanctioned by the government. Bury till i die . And after the demise of bury last year, the fear is that other clubs may now struggle to survive. Football, especially without its fans, is facing an uncertain future. Andy swiss, bbc news. Manchester united will speak to defender marcos rojo about his conduct after he appeared to ignore argentinas coronavirus lockdown rules. Images of rojo, playing poker with friends, were posted on social media by his brother. The images have since been deleted. Argentinas lockdown rules remain in place until the 10th may. Former southampton and everton manager Ronald Koeman is in hospital after being admitted yesterday with chest pains. Koeman, whos now in charge of the netherlands, is understood to have had chest pain and required surgery at hospital but is now in a stable condition and expected to return home later today. The west Indies Cricket team may be required to go into isolation for 1a days before their test series against england can potentially get underway. The three test series was due to begin injune at the oval but no cricket will be played in england and wales until at least the 1st ofjuly. Its now understood the earliest date the first test could begin is the 8thjuly. Four time champion chris froome believes the Tour De France can work without fans but questioned how organisers can prevent large crowds from gathering on the course. The race was due to start at the end ofjune but has been pushed back until late august. Despite the delay, froome says he is still training for the event as he aims to win the iconic Yellow Jersey for a fifth time. Real life tennis is on hold at the moment, of course. But mario tennis is hotting up at home. The stay at home slam was played yesterday, with stars like serena williams, john mcenroe and non players such asjustin bieber and his wife hailey. All the players received a donation to a charity of their choice. Serena lost her opening match. Ican i can also tell you covid also lost her opening match. She lost her match to the wife ofjustin bieber. A range of new workplace rules are being proposed to help businesses emerge from the coronavirus lockdown. Ministers have promised specific advice for several types of workplaces, from call centres to factories. So what will it look like . Sean is taking a look. I realised i have not managed to see you in the office this morning. Whether it was deliberate or not, i dont know. Lots of people thinking about when they might go back to work are considering mccann may do it safely . The government, workers, they all want to be doing that but under what rules . We have managed to see an early draft proposals the government is putting forward for the union to represent workers, for businesses to look at. We can go through a few of those. The government wants to see additional measures looked out, including more hygiene procedures, physical screens. The use of protective equipment as well. In terms of how and when are we working, employers are being encouraged to stagger working times, stagger the arrival and a break times. Not so much hot testing as we have been encouraged to do for so many years now. And then the vulnerable workers. This is a really key one, those over 70, pregnant, with underlying or respiratory problems, those who cannot work from home, perhaps on these proposals, they are saying those people should be put in the safest possible roles. How easy is that for employers to carry out . Some industries, this would be music to their ears. I spoke to bosses last week in the Aviation Industry who said social distancing is not possible any reports or on planes, so possible any reports or on planes, so they would be happy if this came into place. And would this would also be the case in the hospitality industry. The boss of fullers explained why the two metre rule would not be viable for his business if it was in place. You think of the practical problems of going to the toilet, being served at the bar, the serve food at your table and then the fact that we go to the pub to socially interact with friends, it would not be the same having a two metres gap. It would be a very soulless experience. It would mean that our revenue would be down as much as 80 and our costs would go up. Potentially, it is more catastrophic for the sector to operate under the social distancing guidelines than it is with us being closed down at the moment. The unions representing workers right across different sectors are watching this very closely, particularly the protective equipment. They are concerned that a lot of businesses dont have the protective equipment needed if you are going to remove that social distancing rule. The british chambers of commerce wants to see the government give more information on what steps will be taken to make sure businesses have at the equipment in place. Before atm i will be speaking to the boss of Taylor Wimpey, one of our biggest construction Home Building companies. They are reopening sites today that have not been open for a few weeks. We will hear what they are putting in place and whether they field whether these changes will perhaps help them because this is about getting the economy going as quickly as possible. Thank you very much and hopefully we can catch a glimpse of you in the office later. I promise to come and see you. 6 a7am is the time. Labour is urging the government to reveal its plans for stockpiling face masks, before it eases any lockdown restrictions. Shadow cabinet minister Rachel Reeves has written to her counterpart, michael gove, pressing him to learn from past mistakes and get ahead of the game, should the wearing of face masks become official advice. Racheljoins us now from leeds. Good morning. Thank you for spending a bit of time with us this morning. Can we start with that issue of face masks . We mention the letter you have written to michael gove. Are you suggesting that all of us could be wearing them in public at some stage . The Prime Minister suggested on friday that a face masks or Face Coverings are likely to be more commonplace as the lockdown restrictions ease, and published medical opinion increasingly suggests that they will help in terms of reducing the spread of this virus. And if that is the case and our medical advice in the uk changes, it is really important that the government has a plan to ensure that we are producing and procuring enough face masks so that everybody has asked access to them and ensuring that they are distributed so ensuring that they are distributed so that people can access them. If it is Face Coverings or we are using a scarf, we can all do that ourselves, but if there is some medical and scientific advisers are suggesting that we need more approved face masks or Face Coverings, then the government must do much more, and we have seen the crisis with ppe for doctors, nurses and social care workers and others on the front line, in terms of not being able to get their supplies, we do not want to have a competition between the front line workers and ordinary members of the public. Of those that are working on the nhs and end care scenarios must be the priority. By but i suspect there will be a different sort of Face Covering or mask for the general public and the government must make sure they are available and distributed as well. What are you doing yourself at the moment . Are you covering your face when you go out for your hour each day or pppin9 out for your hour each day or popping to the shops . One of the mothers of the school that i go to is making them. I got some from her for my family last week. The advice at the moment in the uk is not to wear them, but it looks like from Company Countries like germany, france and japan that the advice is moving in that direction. I am urging that the government put in place a plan and that they have a plan to ensure that the british industry, textile and manufacturers can produce these masks, and that we get them to every household in the country, so that we can all be properly protected. If the government is going to relax some of these lockdown conditions, we must ensure that we are properly protected when out and about, and that means keeping in place those rules about the distance between ourselves and others, it means hygiene, but increasingly in other countries, it means having Face Coverings. The government were too slow and lockdown, they have been too slow in testing, they were too slow to get ppe to people on the front line. I am urging the government and putting suggestions to the government as to how we can improve and increase overproduction of the facemasks and to get them distributed to people. You talked about some of the other countries that have been using their lockdown. We were talking about italy and germany earlier, you said that the government was too slow to enter lockdown, is it too soon to be creeping out of it . We supported the extension of the lockdown, but we have been urging government to publish a plan, because businesses and other organisations, as you have been reporting on your programme this morning, need time to plan and prepare and put in place very different organisations within their businesses, government need to put any range of measures, whether it is community testing, Contact Tracing, and also things like potentially the Face Coverings. But also, i think the public, who have overwhelmingly stuck by these very tough lockdown rules over the last few weeks, they deserve to be levelled with, and thatis deserve to be levelled with, and that is why we are urging the government to give much more detail. Face coverings are one part of that. I want to ask you this final question. You have pressed the government to release that plan and we understand discussions are taking place and the detail will be announced on sunday, the discussions taking place on thursday. What would you do . We have been asking for that detailfor around one you do . We have been asking for that detail for around one month. You do . We have been asking for that detailfor around one month. But what would you do . On facemasks we have urged the government to work with british manufacturers and textiles to increase the production of them. There are some practical things that the government can do. Recruiting the people to do the Contact Tracing for example, that will be absolutely essential if we are going to ease those lockdown restrictions. There are practical things that the government can do at the moment, not to end the lockdown restrictions but to prepare for where we will be in a few weeks time to ensure that any relaxation works and does not increase the infection rate. That is what the government must do today. Thank you, Rachel Reeves, go to speak to you live this morning. And we will speak to ben wallace, the defence secretary, from 7 30am this morning. Teachers in england are being asked to decide what results they think pupils would have achieved in gcse and a level exams, which have been cancelled because of the coronavirus outbreak. The decision, which will be made on a mixure of criteria, could adversely affect pupils from bame backgrounds, as our education correspondent Elaine Dunkley reports. Students do not revise for mocks, and that is a fact. The time we start revising is from easter onwards. We work really hard for the exams, the real ones, not the mocks. But now, for these a level students, they will count, along with previous homework and assessments. Teachers will decide on the grades. My name is gemma, i am 18, from west surrey. My name is imtiaz, im from london. Hi, im eloise. If, on results day, i dont achieve the grade that i want to, what happens to my chances of going to the university i want to go to . One of the first things that went through my mind was the fear of not being able to prove myself any more in real exams. It is really stressful to go through this and not know what is going on. We have been speaking with students across the uk. In these times, solutions to problems are far from ideal. I was building myself up to taking my a levels, to get the best results i could so i could go to the best university i could. I am the first in the immediate family to go to university and all the work that i put in and my family have helped me with over the last few years is alljust kind of. It feels like it has gone to waste a little bit. I think quuals system is kind of the fairest that they could do. How did you get on in your mocks . Do you think thatll be enough for you to go and study medicine . I had interviews to prepare for, so i couldnt really prepare for mocks, so i did underachieve, compared with my predicted grades. If i had got those in my real exams i wouldnt have been able to go into medicine. The exam regulator, quual, says grades awarded will be a fair reflection and students will get the chance to do resits or appeal. But there is particular concern that race and class might leave some students at a disadvantage. Naomi, what are your big concerns about the way grades are going to be decided for students . There is evidence to show that students from disadvantaged backgrounds, low income households, especially high achieving students, do tend to be under predicted. Sometimes teachers do have lower expectations of some groups, black students, for example. I remember in english, i was predicted a c, and i got an a star. You are already at university, if you had to go through this process, do you think you would have got to cambridge . I probably wouldnt be at cambridge. I think it is quite common with black students to be under predicted. Just talking to other black cambridge students as well, it seems like it is notjust an isolated incident, it seems like something that happens quite often. Oh, my god i got it. There will still be the celebrations and disappointments of previous years but making the grade will feel very different in these testing times. Big decisions for lots of people to be made, are there . It is a long summer ahead. Yes. And matt has the details. It might be silly this weekend. Good morning. It certainly will be for a good part of the time andi will be for a good part of the time and i think many of you will be digging out those shorts and t shirts later this week as things warm up. After the temperatures dropped last week, they are back on the up this one. Plenty of sunshine around and for most of us, not much if any around and for most of us, not much ifany rain around and for most of us, not much if any rain around. The rain today will be across the eastern parts of england and scotland. This weather the frontier, which is climbing away as High Pressure builds on. The wind strengthens tomorrow and some rain for the south west. At the moment, some patchy rain from the cloud in the southern counties of england, that will clear to bring some sunshine. Sunshine for the north and west. Across the south east of scotla nd west. Across the south east of scotland and eastern counties of england, some showers present. This afternoon some could become heavy in places, particularly for parts of lincolnshire and the east midlands. By lincolnshire and the east midlands. By and large, compared to the rest of the uk, they are few in number. Most of the uk, they are few in number. M ost pla ces of the uk, they are few in number. Most places staying dry. Warmest for the south and south west. 19 or 20 celsius possible. Coolerfor the east coast at ten or 1a degrees. The showers for the east of england will fade as we go into tonight. Most places dry, the breeze picks up across the south and heavy rain for the Channel Islands into devon and cornwall as we hit dawn tomorrow morning. Even the rumble of thunder. Temperatures holding up here and elsewhere it is chilly in morning. You could see a touch of frost in places. Dry for many, more cloud across the southern counties of england and wales. Heavy rain for south west and south wales in the morning, turning patchy. Some rain could get into the eastern counties of england. Many staying dry. Windiest across the south, making it feel cooler here than we will see today. Today, 19 or 20 degrees, 12 or 1a for tomorrow. Warmerfor the north, 17, 18 celsius possible. Temperatures on the low side for the eastern coast. For the middle of the week, High Pressure builds in, quite widely. Weather fronts week, High Pressure builds in, quite widely. Weatherfronts in the south west will fade. High pressure means dry weather for the vast majority. More cloud for cornwall and South West Wales, the small chance of a shower here. Claudia is conditions over ireland. Blue skies for scotland, england and wales from dawn to dusk on wednesday. With lighter winds, temperatures rise across the board. Not as chilly for the eastern coast. 20 degrees here. Warmerfor the eastern coast. 20 degrees here. Warmer for wednesday, 22 possible the eastern coast. 20 degrees here. Warmerfor wednesday, 22 possible in the south east, 19 or 20 across parts of scotland. Whilst that warmth will last across the south for friday, just watch what happens as we head through the weekend. Temperatures will drop widely, northerly winds will start to dig in and by the time we get to sunday, temperatures only around five or 10 degrees. You are swapping the shorts for something a bit warmer once again. That is how the weather is looking, dan and louise have all of your headlines next. Good morning. Welcome to breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. Our headlines today. New rules proposed for the workplace as the government begins to plan how the uk can start to ease the coronavirus lockdown. Two metre social distancing could be relaxed and sharing spaces reduced. Ill speak to the boss of one of our Biggest Construction Companies about how he can abide by the rules and keep his builders safe. In the us, President Trump says he believes there could be a vaccine by the end of the year but admits his medical advisers are less optimistic. Italy begins the slow process of easing its National Lockdown with takeaways and parks allowed to re open for the first time in months. A split between the top and bottom as the premier league makes plans for the restart. Clubs at the top are happy to play out the season at neutral venues, but those near the bottom like brighton want the threat of relegation removed. Its monday, the ath of may. Our top story. New rules to help businesses emerge from lockdown are being considered by the government. Under draft proposals, employers would need to stagger start times and limit the amount of equipment that needs to be shared. Workplaces would also be asked to provide ppe if the 2 metre social distancing rules cant be observed. Andy moore reports. As we enter our sixth week of lockdown, deserted streets, like here in leeds, are all part of our new normal, but the government is now looking at how we move out of the current restrictions. The Prime Minister is not set to publicly outline proposals for easing lockdown just yet but employers are already being consulted about a possible way forward. As part of a draft proposal, the two metre rule may be relaxed in cases where it cannot be observed, to be replaced by other means of keeping workers safe, such as physical screens and ppe. Under the plans, employers will be urged to stagger start and finish times to take pressure off public transport. Workers considered vulnerable would be put in the safest possible roles in the workplace. People who can work from home would be urged to continue doing so. That means many offices would remain closed. It is all part of a very cautious approach to easing the lockdown to avoid a second wave. The British Public have shown amazing stoicism and understanding of the need for the lockdown measures and, quite rightly, they want to ensure that, if and when they are eased, that theyre eased in a way that makes sure that the british peoples sacrifice has been worthwhile and that we continue to operate in a way which means the Public Health comes first. Another 315 coronavirus deaths were reported yesterday, across the uk, in all settings, bringing the total number of fatalities to 28,aa6. Today, borisjohnson willjoin an International Initiative to raise billions of pounds to fight coronavirus. He will say that stopping the pandemic is the most urgent shared endeavour of our time. Its humanity against the virus, he says, and together we will prevail. Andy moore, bbc news. Lets speak now to our Political Correspondent helen catt, who joins us from westminster. It isa it is a big week. We do understand we may get information later this week from the Prime Minister about how lockdown may be changed and eased. It is a big week. Every 21 days the government has to look at the lockdown restrictions in place and decide if they are still necessary. That actually falls on thursday but we are told we will get the detail on the government response on sunday, when Boris Johnson is set to outline a road map, a menu of options for getting us map, a menu of options for getting us out of lockdown. What we are expecting is to hear what the government plans to do in terms of phased returns and work to school, that kind of thing in what order they plan to do it in. What we might not get is there when, a definite timetable. They have consistently said they will put these measures in place at a specific time depending on scientific advice and that will change and i cannot know how each measure will impact on things like the rate of transmission of the virus. We know there is an International Conference taking place today about a vaccine. The government has been clear the only way we will get back to normality is when there is a treatment or vaccine for coronavirus. This meeting, this virtual meeting, aims to raise the £6 billion towards finding one, borisjohnson will confirm the uk will put in £388 million of that into finding a vaccine, treatment or tests. The idea is to get countries together to try to speed up the discovery of a new vaccine. The countries that will be on that call include canada, france, germany, italy, japan, norway, saudi arabia as well as the european commission. There are a couple of big names missing from the list, the us, china and russia. They will not beyond the call but the idea is to get International Cooperation to drive forward some cooperation. President donald trump has said he believes america will have a vaccine for coronavirus by the end of the year. He said he had done a greatjob managing the pandemic, and dismissed claims he failed to act quickly enough. Our north america correspondent, david willis, has this report. That was a great man. In the shadow of the man who led america through the dark days of the civil war, donald trump, the self declared wartime president , sought to relaunch his president ial campaign, with a steady stream of optimism about this countrys ability to bounce back from the coronavirus. We want to go back to work quickly, but safely. And that is what is happening. Next year, i think, well have a great economic year. Having hailed the development of an experimental antiviral drug called remdesivir to treat patients with covid 19, the president said a vaccine would be available earlier than his medical advisers have so far predicted. We think we are going to have a vaccine by the end of this year and we are pushing very hard. We are Building Supply lines now, we dont even have the final vaccine. Although some states are slowly reopening, they are not doing it quickly enough for some residents. President trump expressed sympathy for those who have protested lockdown orders in several states. Responding to claims he acted too slowly to stem the spread of the coronavirus, mr trump said his actions had saved thousands of lives. We should not lose one person over this. This should have been stopped in china. It should have been stopped. But if we didnt do it, the minimum we would have lost is a million, 2 million, a million, five. Thats the minimum. The president is not without his supporters however. In florida, where marinas recently reopened to the public, hundreds of boats gathered near his winter retreat at mar a lago to stage a nautical parade. Mr trump is due to travel to arizona in the next few days, and he is not ruling out the possibility of Holding Election rallies in a few months time. David willis, bbc news. Italy is easing its National Lockdown today the worlds longest of the coronavirus pandemic. Takeaways and parks are reopening, funerals can resume and some businesses are restarting. It comes the day after the country registered its lowest daily number of coronavirus related deaths since its lockdown started two months ago. Lets speak to our europe reporter gavin lee, who is in brussels this morning. Good morning. Good to speak to you, as ever, on bbc breakfast. Give us an idea. I know you well in brussels this morning but what is the feeling like . The italians had 174 deaths confirmed in the last 2a hours, the lowest figure after the first day lockdown was in place. Going back and it will be two months this week. The r rate, the reproduction rate, is less than one. The level of passing is at a minimum, where it needs to be. People can leave homes for the first time for things other than food and medicine. They can visit family, not france. Athletes can visit family, not france. Athletes ca n start visit family, not france. Athletes can start training. Funerals can be held. People in spain are able to leave the house. Boulevards in madrid were busy. Split lanes and times in barcelona. Worth seeing what is going on in hungary today. The Prime Minister seeing everything outside of budapest will open in terms of hotels, car phase, restau ra nts a nd terms of hotels, car phase, restaurants and bars. He says they have flattened the pair. Epidemiologists say they have not reached the peak. In belgium, today, Fabric Stores were open, nothing else. The Prime Minister are sane people can make face masks essentially ahead of next week when all shops and stores can open. Saying. Hairdressers and barbers in germany are being allowed to reopen today, for the First Time Since the lockdown was imposed six weeks ago. Customers and staff will have to wear masks, and therell be no hot drinks or magazines on offer, because of the risk of infection. Many businesses say theyre booked up for weeks in advance. As life under lockdown continues, many of us are wondering how long the path back to normal will be, and how bumpy. Easing the restrictions requires the government to strike a fine balance between the resumption of every day life, and keeping the virus at bay. Our science editor, david shukman, has been finding out what scientists will be looking for. Across the uk, the numbers needing hospital treatment are generally falling. That is a key indicator that the spread of the disease is slowing down, the restrictions had made a difference. But the virus has not gone away. The latest estimate of the infection rate, the r rate, is not. 7. What matters is it is below the threshold of one, where one person infected only passes the virus to one another. Reopening schools might add Something Like 0. 2, so we could still stay below the critical line. Lifting the lockdown entirely could add two to the r rate, which could see the outbreak accelerate much more. Scientists are warning there is not much opportunity to relax many other measures. Singapore has rushed to install fourth as and new hospital beds because infections were thought to be under control, suddenly started to rise. What we are seeing in countries like singapore, when i have seen as like a second wave, what it is is outbreaks which had been happening in expat dormitories. They have found a place where it can ta ke they have found a place where it can take hold and reset again. All countries must remain on alert for the possibility of additional transmission. Whenever measures do come to be relaxed when testing will be crucial on a bigger scale than now to track the virus and spot any new outbreaks. With that comes the job of tracing all the contacts of anyone infected. 18,000 people are being recruited to do this but the system is not yet up and running. Vital to this is isolating people who are infected or think they may be. This whole process will be needed for to come. However the next steps unfold, they will take us into what will be a more complicated phase of the crisis. At the moment the lockdown affects everyone in the same way but when you start relaxing these measures, some will be at home while others will be out and about which could be confusing and probably harderfor the which could be confusing and probably harder for the government to explain. Different people will be doing Different Things differently andi doing Different Things differently and i think that can undermine both solidarity but also trust and possibly adherence and could engender a degree of resentment. All the time there is a challenge of keeping people safe. In spain, masks will have to be worn on public transport from tomorrow. Many scientists believe this can reduce the rate of infection. The uk government is still considering the option as the way of leaving the lockdown. There is so much to talk about. Lets discuss this more with edwin morgan, director of policy at the institute of directors, and with tobyn hughes, the managing director at transport north east. Good morning. Thank you forjoining us. Good morning. Thank you forjoining us. People will be so interested to know how we get out of lockdown. You have seen the National Government proposals. Tell us what you make of them . I have seen them. They were shared on condition of privacy but they seem to be in the papers this morning. The broad outlines are probably what people would expect. It is all about helping companies to work safely. They are giving guidelines on how to maintain social distancing. All of the things that companies have already been thinking about. When we had spoken to or said eight members, issues like staggered shifts continuing to keep a lot of people working from home, repeated deep cleaning, using ppe where necessary. Those things our companies thinking about because when gradually people start to come back to work, obviously, they will wa nt to back to work, obviously, they will want to keep staff and customers say. How Many Companies you are talking to think they can maintain safe measures, social distancing and open . My companies will be able to open . My companies will be able to open but probably not fully. Only 7 roughly from the latest figures who think they cannot open at all, cannot operate. Most are in the middle, they could operate, may be 50 . I do not think we will know until Companies Start to try. Offices will be shut for weeks, they had to go in, be inspected and have risk assessments before they can see but it will be greatly reduced from they were. Good morning to you as well. And you give us an idea of the sorts of challenges you and your tea m sorts of challenges you and your team will have to potentially work through if there is a staggered reopening of your network, for example . The tyne and wear metro carries about 100,000 people each day into the city centres of newcastle and sunderland. The issue that we have at the moment is that the social distancing guideline of two metres between you and the next person does reduce the amount of people who can fit on board a train. And many more people travel on buses and the same issues will be present there. The sort of thing we are looking to come out of the government over the course of the because they talk about how lockdown will be lifted and in what way will be how we are expected to manage that type of reduction. At the moment with two metres between each person, that gives about ga people per train, which compares to the normal rush of a load before the Coronavirus Crisis began of about aoo people. You can see the impact. If through Face Covering or other forms of reducing social distancing we can get more people onto a train, that will help enormously. And equally, depending on some of the things that edwin was talking about, for example, employ a staggering start times, people working in a different way to before, hopefully we will be able to progressively to move people more frequently around the area and help the economy to restart. That is all about passengers, isnt it . What about passengers, isnt it . What about the people driving trains and buses, how do you make sure they are protected . Buses, how do you make sure they are protected . Yes, it is very important to say that throughout the Coronavirus Crisis in lockdown, transport networks have remained open and we have to thank all the people who have been involved in making that happen. It has been a very worrying and uncertain time, and people have left their families and people have left their families and gone out to work to make sure that key workers can get around. We are working very closely with all the people who work with us, with the people who work with us, with the trade unions as well, to make sure that we can provide the right levels of protection. Everybody is very worried, but as we enter a period where the number of passengers may start to increase, depending on what the government has to say, we must make sure that the people have the right level of personal protection and that will include face mask perhaps, face visors, other forms of protection to make sure that there is a two metre separation kept or where it cant be that people have the correct level of protection. To come back to you, edwin, i was speaking to a friend who works in the Aviation Industry and he was speaking about the fact that he thinks that industry will be changed beyond recognition once we come out the other side of this virus. Do you think that the way that we work, our working practices will change forever as well . that we work, our working practices will change forever as well . I think thatis will change forever as well . I think that is likely. Have you have said, some industries will be particularly affected. Some through bailouts, some it will take a long time to re cover some it will take a long time to recover to get to their previous level. But the thing we have seen from talking to members is that the measures taken during the lockdown, they will keep after the lockdown, and that could be a positive story in terms of more flexible working, using the working conditions that everyone has got used to using. It is good for employees it helps with childcare responsibilities, those kind of things. We have also seen companies that have been able to do things digitally that previously they had to do face to face. And it has worked well for some it will be the long term thing to do. Has worked well for some it will be the longterm thing to do. Briefly, edwin, on the road to recovery and getting back to normality, how important is it that that kind of fear factor, people fearing for their safety, that that is managed as well . Absolutely. Even if the government advice changes and says that we can go back to work, Many Employers will feel nervous about that. Using public transport, for example. It will take a collaborative effort between employers, staff and trade unions to make sure that people feel comfortable and to do so in a safe way. Thank you both for your time this morning, edwin morgan and tobyn use. this morning, edwin morgan and tobyn use. Tobyn use. Tobyn hughes. Some tragic news in the past couple of months on breakfast, but were also doing our best to bring you stories of those people who have recovered from coronavirus. They include angela schlegel, who says covid 19 actually saved her life. Whilst being treated for the virus, doctors discovered she had a rare undiagnosed heart condition. Well speak to angela in a moment, but first lets take a the moment she got out of hospital. Well done pop music plays. Cheering. Shes free and angela joins us now from west london, alongside one of the consultants who treated her, dr pujan patel. We nearly lost you therefore a moment thank you both of us for being with us. Lovely to see you dancing in the car, but you seem to be doing a bit of dancing this morning as we came to you tell us about your story. It is remarkable. Yes, i about your story. It is remarkable. Yes, lam about your story. It is remarkable. Yes, i am still getting my head around it. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. So, iwent into hospital with really bad covid 19 symptoms and on the 22nd of march i we nt symptoms and on the 22nd of march i went to chelsea and westminster a e and a few days later i was in intensive care and i was transferred over to Royal Brompton and under theircare, over to Royal Brompton and under their care, they told me some news that i really wasnt expecting, that i had that i really wasnt expecting, that ihada that i really wasnt expecting, that i had a rare autoimmune disease and that it had really badly affected my heart. And before that you knew nothing about this heart problem at all, is that right . No, i had two years of getting on with life with feeling unwell at that time, going back and forward to the doctor with really bad asthma symptoms, and i ke pt really bad asthma symptoms, and i kept on picking up colds and was treated for chest infections, but still living a very active life. But i had no idea that my heart was any bit of trouble. Dr pujan patel, how dangerous is this autoimmune thing that she has . I guess, if could briefly say how nice it is to see angela out of the hospital and doing so well actually especially after seeing her for four weeks in the hospital, it is fantastic to see her doing so well. Getting to you a question of how severe it is, it really is quite a severe condition, especially when the heart is involved and that was the case with angela, and i hope she doesnt mind me telling you that our heart was not functioning well at all when she first presented. I was reading through the sort of case details. I do not have the case notes, but some of the details of the case. Was it correct that her heart was only functioning at about 10 of its capacity, is that right . Yes, we should have a functioning level of about 50 or go , but she was near the 10 mark when she first came into us. That sounds incredibly serious. Was that flag straightaway . When someone has a situation like that, how do you then have to taylor the sort of coronavirus treatment at the sort of coronavirus treatment at the same time . It is a very good question. The real challenge to angelas case was the covid 19 factor because we know that evidence that has come on from across the globe that that can involve the heart. So you have a scenario with a possible component of covid 19 stressing the heart and then this underlying rate condition taxing angelas heart. And it was really luck and good fortune that she was able to get transferred across to a Specialist Centre that had the expertise and the breadth of doctors that are used to seeing this on a far more regular basis to then tackle the condition. Because to treat this condition, we usually suppress the information with the medicines that also suppress your immune system. So, you can imagine the discussions that were being hard between ourselves and all of the consultants that were involved as to whether we suppress the information of the immune system and risk worsening her covid or finding a happy medium somewhere, because this is such a young disease and condition, we really dont understand covid very well at all. So, it was certainly a challenge but she was fortunately surrounded by a team of very good doctors. What it shows is how brilliant you all do yourjob. Angela, you were in hospitalfor some time yourjob. Angela, you were in hospital for some time with two really serious conditions. How did you get through it . Well, i did a post when i was on chelsea and westminster on facebook and it was quite serious and everyone was worried, of course. And after that i thought, how do i make the most of this time in hospital . I didnt want to share what a hard time i was having, so i decided to share some positive posts and hope, and i knew people outside in lockdown were having a hard time as well, and i wanted to show them that hospital can also be a good place to be. And i dont know how. Like everyone else i had a really hard time in hospital, but i also had an extraordinary time, so i wanted to share some of that with my friends. Dr pujan patel, i know you are dealing with coronavirus patients all of the time and there are some terrible outcomes, not only for the patients but their families as well. And i wondered how important and sort of encouraging was it for you and the other staff to see the way that angela reacted to not only having coronavirus but also this limiting heart problem . Yeah, i mean, it makes a huge impact when we see patients that actually walk out of the hospital, because you can imagine the amount of suffering and loss of life that our staff, nurses and everyone in the hospital has to see and endure on a daily basis. But when you do see that patient get up and walk out on their own two feet smiling, it makes a tremendous impact on morale and just reinforces the work that you have done and makes it so much more worthwhile. Angela, you are obviously out of hospital now. You came home. Are you with your parents question mark where you nervous about coming home . Yes, iwas, that where you nervous about coming home . Yes, i was, that is why i dressed up ina full suit yes, i was, that is why i dressed up in a full suit when i left hospital. That was so that i would not carry all of the germans from the contaminated ward home with me. I had two showers that they which was very tiring that was just to be clean. And then i self isolated for one weekjust to be extra cautious. How do you feel now . one weekjust to be extra cautious. How do you feel now . I am still recovering, but i feel so great to be at home and to have got through all of that. Yes. It was quite an experience. I want to sack dr pujan patel for his positivity. When i first came through to the isolator room, i thought, first came through to the isolator room, ithought, gosh, he is so upbeat and he continued to be like that and he reassured me, as did all of the doctors. The nurses and all of the staff at brompton, really, what they are doing right now and across the uk, their compassion and care and professionalism in such a hostile environment, and it is not normal for them to go to work in that way. Iwant to for them to go to work in that way. I want to thank dr pujan patel. I am so grateful. Thank you very much. That is a wonderful message. It is wonderful to see your positivity clearly rubbing off on each other. Dr pujan patel, i saw you smiling while angela was talking. Are things getting any easier you feel in caring for covid 19 at the moment . Yes, ican caring for covid 19 at the moment . Yes, i can certainly say that the pressure is easing. We are certainly able to cope better. That is all in the context of having to triple the capacity that we are used to dealing with, and so we are not quite back down to our normal functioning levels in terms of the normal beds are numbers that we have, but we are being able to cope better under nurses and therapists, our entire team is finding it far better and easier to manage now that we have got over the worse of the initial peak. Well, thank you for the work you are doing, not only with angela but so many patients that your team are working with. Lovely to have you both on the programme today. Glad to see you doing well, angela. Both on the programme today. Glad to see you doing well, angelam both on the programme today. Glad to see you doing well, angela. It is notjust see you doing well, angela. It is not just affecting see you doing well, angela. It is notjust affecting our see you doing well, angela. It is not just affecting our senior population, there were others on the ward that were a few years younger or older than me. Just be mindful that when we ease lockdown and look after each other, continue to do that. And it is such an unpredictable virus, we do not know the long term effects. I dont want anybody else or their families to go through what i did. So please stay safe. Thank you, angela. We are transfixed by the peer review. Thank you, really good to chat. You know when positivity rubs off on someone else, it is just great. When positivity rubs off on someone else, it isjust great. Ifeel lifted by angela and dr pujan patel. Lets get the weather with matt. Good morning. That lifted me as well this morning. Let us look at the weather. This picture from pershore, it gives an idea of what is happening this morning. Some fog in the distance. The breaks on the cloud, some sunshine coming through, mostly dry. There will be some rain around today as there will through the week, but not a huge amount. Temperatures could climb once again this week. Tempered by the strong winds over the next few days across the south, but for most it will be a largely dry weight. The rain today coming from this weather front, which is just inching away as High Pressure builds and once again. You must watch this weather system with some rain later into tomorrow. At the moment, some patchy mist and fog across the east here and there and for south east scotland down towards the wash, we have some outbreaks of rain and drizzle. Some could stone heavier later, any patchy drizzle in the south will clear away, but it is the south will clear away, but it is the eastern counties of england this afternoon which might see some sharp showers, particularly for lincolnshire and the east midlands. Dry and sunny into the afternoon elsewhere, temperatures at ten or 1a degrees. In the sunshine for wales in the south west, we could see 19 or 20 celsius. This evening and overnight, the showers in the east will fade, mostly dry for most, devon and cornwall well see something wetter or windier arrive later in the night with the possibility of thunder for the morning. Touch of frost elsewhere, but for tuesday, whilst we will see some rain for the south west and the Channel Islands, that will fade. Most of you will have a dry day on tuesday. A full forecast in around 30 minutes. Hello. This is breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. The government is looking at new rules to help businesses emerge from lockdown. Under draft proposals, employers would need to stagger start times and limit the amount of equipment that needs to be shared. Workplaces would also be asked to provide ppe if the 2 metre social distancing rules cant be observed. Companies, businesses and unions had until 10pm last night respond to the government plans. We can discuss this more with the defence secretary, ben wallace, who joins us now from preston. Good morning. How are you . I think you have had coronavirus, havent you . Yes, i had it in a few weeks ago and you . Yes, i had it in a few weeks ago and i am fine. I am back at work making sure the military on any day, a000 people, are helping to support the response to covid. I am fine now, back at work. Give us a description. We have been speaking to someone who had it in hospital for a fee weeks. How badly did it affect you . Thankfully, not as badly as people who went into hospital. It not really mild, it kicked in. I had a bad night with a High Temperature and all the symptoms that are listed, everything from my last smell and taste. In days, a key bones, your Energy Levels go up and down. Aching bones. Unlike the flu, other illnesses, it saps away at mental strength. It comes and goes. You wake up and think you are better. One day i woke up until my Energy Levels were back to normal. I thought, this is good, i had got through it. I was dozing on a sofa and it had all gone straight into my chest. The tightness was there for six, seven hours. That is as much mentally stressing as the rest of it. I was very lucky. I did not have it. I was very lucky. I did not have it as bad as people who had to go to hospital. I think that is why it is really important we follow the guidelines about what you do when you have it, staying at home, isolating. I deliberately did not come home to lancashire, where i live with my family, in order to not effectively cause them problems. I stayed looking at the wall for eight days but got through it. I think we all can prevent many of us can get through it. As i heard from your previous contributors, the great help from the nhs, the capacity of the nhs to help those who really need it is really key to how we fight the coronavirus outbreak. Lets talk about the different ways the government is fighting it. Testing as part of it. The military is involved in that as well. Looking at the numbers, anyway you look at it, their numbers and tests have been going down since friday. Over 73,000 people tested on friday, saturday 63,000, sunday 56,000. Are you concerned the number of people being tested is falling . Lets see this week. We have 90 mobile testing units, all manned by the military. One of the reasons we decided this was a really important part of the testing regime was getting testing to people, to take the tests to the demand is a really important part of this. If you are a hard working care worker in my constituency, or up in north lancashire, the idea at the end of the day you will get into a carand end of the day you will get into a car and drive for end of the day you will get into a carand drive foran end of the day you will get into a car and drive for an hour to a fixed place of testing where maybe no one will pay you for that time to do it or where you are very tired was unrealistic and i think that is why we, and matt hancock, together we stepped up the idea of taking testing to people. Today there are at least two sites of mobile testing in lancashire alone, burnley and southport. I visited a testing site at southport and a huge number of people visiting were from the care home sector and is really good news. 2596 home sector and is really good news. 25 of people who bet to never showed up. Together we all had to make sure that we get testing when we need it and we follow the guidelines. A very simple booking process online through the government website about coronavirus. The results not only help you as an individual but they help you as an individual but they help to feed government scientific advice and let people know where we stand with coronavirus. This week, as you have rightly trailed, the government had been making a number of decisions about the route out of lockdown and we will do that based on the best informed science. That would be really important that testing plays a strong role in that. The r rate is going to be really important. If i can just asking about testing. Grant shapps yesterday, when asked by andrew marr whether, if we had been doing testing earlier, a lot of people might not have died. He said, yes, if we had had 100,000 Testing Capacity before all this started, i am sure a lot of things would have been different. Would you agree . You have to have a memory about the ebbs and have to have a memory about the ebbs a nd flows have to have a memory about the ebbs and flows of the outbreak. This is a virus that we all struggled to understand around the world. Understanding a virus viruses partly built from a study are people who have had it and it came from the other side of the world. I remember talking to my german counterpart about resourcing reagents. It was not about the massive testing of people going around testing, it was a shortage of the reagent and a shortage of Laboratory Capacity to effectively carry out the tests once the slobs had been taken. They were fixed, matt hancock fixed back, the government fixed that and testing kits became more available. Over time we then produced the mass of people who carry out their testing. It was not the case at the beginning, we did not have lots of soldiers and nhs nhs staff going around, we did not have the reagents. There is a time for that andi reagents. There is a time for that and i think we will learn across the world that no one country did the right, perfect thing and that will play out, you know, in the postmortem of all of this. I think what we have is in the right place. We had the right capacity for testing. I urge nhs workers, care workers, key workers, if they feel ill, they take advantage of the testing regime and go and find either their local mobile testing unit or their satellite or fixed site because that is going to be really important. There is a really good figure that does not get much attention but i think is quite important about the trend of the virus. The number of people who are testing positive as they enter hospital, either because they can wina hospital, either because they can win a test that is positive or indeed when they arrive at hospital they are actually tested, so that is not to confuse with people in hospital or nhs staff, that has fallen to 936 in may across england and that is showing a tracking of halving every two weeks. That is really good news. As your previous contributors were saying, it shows the nhs is getting a bit of space and headroom to deal with it. You mentioned about how we get out of this. We know Business Leaders have been able to see some of the government s proposals in order about how to get back to work. How would employees be safe if there we re would employees be safe if there were no two metre distance then . There are a range of methods to do that. In a supermarket you are not two metres away from someone on that hill, they use shielding. That is quite a nifty way of doing it. The tale. There are a number of ways, ppe, the use of time. The further away you are from someone, the longer you can be with them. The closer you are, the higher the likelihood of catching something. Time is another method. You can be closer than two metres but not for long, at all. There are a range of ways to do this. If it is very vital you work next to each other, potentially things like that shell too see in supermarkets or ppe as a way forward. Shields. If you are tested, you start a clean baseline, you can look at other ways. The two metre rule, is it being looked at . The labour party is asking you to look at getting face mask, possibly. Is that being looked at . The first thing this week is, the analysis of the testing and the science and statistics about where we are, the stock take statistics about where we are, the stock ta ke and where statistics about where we are, the stock take and where we are with infections in the community, in hospitals and in care settings. That will be informed by the wider testing availability matt hancock has put into place. At the same time, running in parallel, we started last week with the key testing regime, which is effectively the office of National Statistics driven something testing regime so we can get a scientific feel of where we are in the levels of infection across the country. That has been really important in other countries, like germany, when they had made decisions about lifting lockdown in some parts. We will have that discussion in government because that will feed into what is the tolerable r rate which we want to live with. The tolerance level is the political discussion. Ie looking at, example, labour is asking for you to look at masks for the public . Are you looking at this . We are looking at sourcing then, we are looking at sourcing then, we are looking at sourcing then, we are looking at that discussion. Labour has raised it with the trade unions and so has some colleagues. When i must make a significant difference is part of the calculation. We are trying to source as many masks as possible. They should be distributed to the key workers first. Nhs staff and care staff first. There are debates around the science, the effectiveness of masks. Part of it is around confidence building. If you wear one you may feel more confident to get back to work and it isa confident to get back to work and it is a useful tool in encouraging the economy to left. Also we have to make sure it makes a difference and i think it makes a marginal difference at the moment. We are looking at masks and ppe and a whole range of issues around lifting lockdown. Briefly, yes or no . It is under consideration. There seems to be confusion and concern from the over 70s about the fact they may be being discriminated against actually . The advice, if you look online and indeed look at the nhs advice for the over 70s, there are quite clear statements. The advice says that those over 70 fall into effectively two groups of people, very high clinically vulnerable and high clinically vulnerable. And the guidance is quite clear. It is not a blanket view of those over 70. If you are over 70 with a range of conditions you are viewed as very high, vulnerable, clinically vulnerable, and you should take extra measures. If you are over 70 you should take extra precautions but it is not a blanket rule that if you are over 70 at the moment you are going to be treated differently from other people. There are two sets of guidance on the internet, one from the nhs about living with coronavirus and shielding and on the government website on coronavirus which was updated on the 1st of may which was updated on the 1st of may which also makes those points. Thank you. It is fast approaching 7 a5am. You are watching breakfast this morning with louise and dan. Coronavirus may be dominating the headlines, but the row over hs2 is still rumbling on. Dozens of protesters are living in makeshift camps in woodland across england to try to prevent trees being felled along the route. Despite clashes between contractors and campaigners, work is going ahead, after the government gave it the official notice to proceed. Phil mackie reports. Torn from the earth, this is whats left of the trees that have already been felled. Campaigners have spent lockdown in a stand off with contractors whosejob it is to prepare the the route for hs2. Among them is a former tree surgeon known as quercus, the latin for oak. When you look across over the fences there and you see all the trees that have been felled and you know that more will be, how do you feel . Heartbroken. Overcome with grief. Because you only have to look and in one direction and you see woodland as shakespeare would have seen when he was walking through the forest of arden, and then i look to my right and it is desolation. And then i look to my right hs2 was given formal notice to proceed two weeks ago, so the work is now gaining pace. This was filmed by the protesters. The camp was set up by locals from the stop hs2 campaign, but others have joined from organisations like extinction rebellion. A lot of the people in this camp have been here since before lockdown began, but since then, they have been isolating as a family group. They are here to try to stop the work that you can probably see just going on behind that fence. Hs2 is the biggest Infrastructure Project for decades. It has already created 11,000 jobs, and they expect that to double in the next two years. It could play an Important Role in kick starting the economy when the lockdown ends. Its supporters say it has strong, green credentials, too. The amount of ancient woodland being taken down in this first phase of h52 is about 0. 01 of all ancient woodland in the country, so it is a tiny amount that we are talking about. And at the same time, it has a whole host of Pro Environmental measures that it is introducing and its planting seven Million Trees along this same route. The government has said that the project is part of its plan to level up the country. This is how the New Birmingham interchange station should look by the end of the decade. It seems a long way from the brook babbling on its way past the bluebells, but the distant hum of diggers is a reminder that beyond the fence, hs2 is coming. Phil mackie, bbc news, warwickshire. So, hs2 continues to rumble on. Sadly, if you have not been watching for the last few weeks, she is no longer on the sofa with us but she is downstairs in the sports hub. The other thing we were talking about is when we might get back to some sort of normal, and that has been a big debate in football over the last few days. Yes, and there is a real split emerging between the clubs at the top of the premier league and the clu bs top of the premier league and the clubs at the bottom. And we will hear more this morning about what the players think about it, because discussions are continuing on what they are calling project restart. A growing number of premier league clubs are open to playing their remaining fixtures at neutral venues. But some clubs in the lower half of the table want the threat of relegation removed. There is general agreement that using neutral stadiums will be the only way to complete the season. While teams in the top divisions around europe begin to work out how they might resume their season, its a very different story for those with smaller budgets. Theres a growing concern that many Football League clubs and their players will face serious financial implications the longer the uncertainity goes on. Andy swiss reports. The glamour and the glory. This is how we normally think of football. But scratch below the premier league surface, how is life in lockdown . Well, Accrington Stanley is like clubs up and down the land the turnstiles shut, the fixture list unfulfilled. One of the smallest clubs in the Football League, its confident it can survive the crisis, but their captain, whose contract runs out next month, has plenty think about. Ive got two young kids at home and my wife. My eldest is three and my youngest is seven months. So, they have been tough work in lockdown. We have got the mortgage, you know, cars to pay for. The bills that Everybody Needs to pay. So, any kind of financial concerns, which has been brought on heavily by this coronavirus, it brings them to the forefront, and just the not knowing when this is going to end, or when you are going to get an answer to when the season is going to come back, or if the season is going to come back. Or, you know, when a new contract is going to be in place, if a new contract is going to be in place, its the waiting that is the most difficult part. Well, for clubs like Accrington Stanley, these are certainly challenging times. Lower league teams normally rely on ticket sales for their income, but for nearly two months now, the terraces here have been empty. So, what now . Well, the premier league is hoping to resume for the tv cameras, but without fans to sustain them, the lower leagues could be in for a long wait. For the first time, im finding it very difficult to see this season being finished. It is very difficult to see anything but football crowds being one of the last things to be sanctioned, and rightly so, but one of the last things to being sanctioned by the government. Bury till i die . And after the demise of bury last year, the fear is that other clubs may now struggle to survive. Football, especially without its fans, is facing an uncertain future. Andy swiss, bbc news. Moving onto one of the richest clubs in the country now. Manchester united will speak to defender marcos rojo about his conduct after he appeared to ignore argentinas coronavirus lockdown rules. Images of rojo playing poker with friends were posted on social media by his brother. The images have since been deleted. Argentinas lockdown rules remain in place until 10 may. Former southampton and everton manager Ronald Koeman is recovering in hospital after undergoing heart surgery. Koeman, whos now in charge of the netherlands, was admitted to hospital yesterday after suffering chest pains. Hes now in a stable condition and could return home later today. That is almost that from me. We have the brighton player glenn murray joining us within the next hour talking to is about life in lockdown and what could be next for the premier li. We look forward to that. We had a little sign of sean there one business has been in contact with us this morning. A hairdressers have said they have five salons and employs 70 people and cannot see an end to this. They are worried about potentially going back to working two metres apart with salons of 1200 square feet, rotating staff is not possible. They have rent to pay they have to be able to operate at 80 functioning capacity or they cannot survive. This person said that they and the entire team is worried. I am sure many businesses this morning will be in the same position. That thing about the two metres social distancing, that is where some of the rules may be relaxed. We have seen the rules may be relaxed. We have seen these early drafts of proposals from government about the new way of working for the different sectors, and that is one that might be changed. But not at the cost of the safety of people. So there would need to be the right protective equipment in place, can businesses like the hairdresser like that get hold of that, can they afford it . While the customers be confident of coming back in . These are the things that businesses around the country will have to weigh up. The constructor sector is a big one as well. Construction is one industry looking to increase its work and one big builder is re opening some sites today. Lots of people out and about will have seen some construction in action the government has already said builders can return to work if they can do so safely as they cant work from home. Today, the uks biggest house builder, Taylor Wimpey, is starting to re open some of its sites. Theyve been closed since 2a march. The boss is pete redfern and we can talk to him now. Good morning to you. Good morning. When i talk about baby steps, you have site managers going on site at if you have your site today. What is stopping you getting your builders on site and getting things running ain . On site and getting things running again . Baby steps is a good description. If you site managers, three orfour, description. If you site managers, three or four, and what is stopping us . This is not a complaint, but what is stopping us is doing the process properly. We expect of a site managers on site this week and they will set up sites and put in place signage and make sure that ppe is in place and extend some of the social areas, putting a new pathways to give more passing space. And slowly from next week, we will start to introduce other things. I do not wa nt to to introduce other things. I do not want to make this an bikie complaint as to doing this slowly, nothing is stopping us apart from that we do it safely. And properly. We have to have the right equipment to do this and you need the behavioural side to work and we believe strongly that is done best by taking those baby steps and taking it one stage at a time. That applies across lots of industries and lots of other circumstances, where people over the next few months will hopefully be out in public. The government has put these draft proposals to industries across the country. What have you said in response to those, what do you believe the government needs to do to get you up and running . I think the government has done a good job to consult on these processes. Done a good job to consult on these processes. You talk this morning about some of the areas that are difficult. You know, around ppe and a two metre rule. All of us making sure that we dont steal ppe, for instance, from the nhs. Those are really difficult questions, and there must be a healthy debate. And i think that debate has started, and you see some of that in public today. The other thing is clarity. In construction, there have been suggestion that you could sort of have a small time limit within which you could sort of break the two metre rule, and that didnt feel right. It is very, very hard to implement clearly on site. We are saying that if you have the right ppe in place, then you can do a job closer than that and it needs to be monitored and watched. That is a process that can be monitored if managed correctly, and people can get some confidence from. It is not simple but it is important and as a Construction Business, we are used to having methods of work for every job that we do. As long as it is clear, we can work towards it. Some of the pictures we are seeing their indicate what life was once like and what you are trying to get back towards. You mentioned ppe, and the fa ct towards. You mentioned ppe, and the fact that you do not want to be stealing equipment from the nhs. But you are already in the process of getting shields, putting them onto ha rd getting shields, putting them onto hard hats, this kind of thing. Do you find that you are competing with the nhs for that material . Not at all, quite the opposite. At the beginning of this process, the first stages of lockdown, we, as most of our industry, donated our existing stocks to the nhs. About one month ago, we started to manufacture face shields, not for ourselves, but actually for care homes, gp surgeries and sort of for the community nurses, and we have supplied now 80 different institutions with that equipment. We are also now manufacturing some construction versions alongside that for ourselves, and we are looking at two other ways to manufacture, that is implement to a new supply and with the nhs what we are finding as there are certain things, like breathing masks, which are starting to come through in decent numbers. There are other areas, and particularly what we see with the work that we are doing with the nhs in care homes, is scrubs and gloves and aprons and the like, that sort of stuff. We can bring any new supply and actually still adds to the nhs apply. Finally, mr redfern, thatis the nhs apply. Finally, mr redfern, that is the safety of workers. In terms ofjob security, do you expect that you will not be able to give as much work to some contractors and that you may have to lay off staff in future . We certainly dont expect to lay off staff and as you may know we have put in place a scheme to protect some of our subcontractors, a pay it forward scheme, that effectively pays them for future work. Over the course of the next month, we will not have anything like a full complement of people on site, for safety reasons we think thatis site, for safety reasons we think that is right. So absolutely it will not be returning to normal in terms of the usual number of subcontractors. But slowly we will get there. We will see a new normal of about 80 of normal levels in about one months time. Over the course of six months we hope to get back to a more normal state. Pete redfern from Taylor Wimpey, thank you very much. Interesting, the expectations there, 80 of perhaps where they used to be in one months time, and that could be the kind of figure that bosses around the country will be keeping an eye on. Lots of uncertainty at the moment. Sean, thank you for that. Thank you, lets catch up with matt with the weather. The promise of some sunshine . Good morning, yes, i certainly am. Temperatures rising this week but they will drop away at the weekend. Not as much rain this week and many places remain largely dry. The rain this morning courtesy of this cold front that is close to the east coast of scotland and england. This will fade as High Pressure builds on but watch this for later tonight and tomorrow for the south west. Southern queen southern counties, some drizzle but that will shift. It is from south east scotland down through the eastern counties of england, rain coming and going. For the afternoon, the chance of some sharper, heavier showers developing. Focusing around the wash, lincolnshire and parts of east anglia and the east midlands seeing some of the heaviest of the downforce. The exception, rather than the rule. Most places dry and getting to 19 or 20 degrees for the south west and south wales in the sunshine. Coolerfor the south west and south wales in the sunshine. Cooler for the eastern coast, ten of 1a celsius once again. The ship was that we see this afternoon will fade tonight, but for the south west the Channel Islands and devon and cornwall you could see some heavy rain and thunder later tonight. That happens as the breeze picks up. Ten or 12 degrees here. For the rest of us, a chilly night through to the morning. Went for the south west of england and south wales. That also sneaking into hampshire on the isle of wight. Starting to turn lautro through the day. Cloudy year, when there as well than we have seen today. Feeling cooler. Further north lighter winds around, a lot more sunshine and in that, temperatures will lift. 17 or 18 celsius in north west england and scotland. Windy later in the week. The headlines coming next. Good morning, welcome to breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. Our headlines today. New rules proposed for the workplace as the government begins to plan how the uk can start to ease the coronavirus lockdown. Relaxing two metre social distancing, staggering shifts and more working for home are all being considered. Well discuss what it could mean for us all. In the us, President Trump says he believes there could be a vaccine by the end of the year but admits his medical advisers are less optimistic. Italy begins the slow process of easing its National Lockdown. We hear from some of those who are counting the cost of the pandemic. A split between the top and bottom as the premier league makes plans for the restart . Clubs at the top are happy to play out the season at neutral venues, but those near the bottom want the threat of relegation removed. Well be speaking to brightons glenn murray later in the hour its monday the ath of may. Our top story. New rules to help businesses emerge from lockdown are being considered by the government. Under draft proposals, employers would need to stagger start times and limit the amount of equipment that needs to be shared. Workplaces would also be asked to provide ppe if the two metre social distancing rules cant be observed. Lets speak now to our Political Correspondent helen catt, who joins us from westminster. We spoke earlier to ben wallace and the government is beginning to give some indication of what the easing of lockdown might look like. We are approaching another one of the legal deadlines for the government where every 21 days a to review whether or not lockdown restrictions should remain in place and the next date for that is thursday. We are being told on sunday borisjohnson will set out a road map for getting us out of lockdown restriction. That means he would set out, we understand, what the government might do in a phased way and in what order it might take those steps, although it is unlikely set out no obvious timetable because it depends on the science. Over the next week ministers will have to make a lot of important decisions, firstly listening to the science and what measures should be and they have to weigh that up against other considerations. A really good example of that is what they do about whether or not they should advise members of the public to cover their face advise members of the public to cover theirface outside advise members of the public to cover their face outside their home. Defence secretary ben wallace set out earlier that while the science isnt necessarily compelling for that, there could be other uses. We are trying to source as many masks as possible. Masks should be distributed to key workers first and it should be nhs staff and care staff first. But there are debates around the science and effectiveness of masks. Part of it is about confidence building, if you wear one you might feel more confident to get back to work and therefore its a useful tool in encouraging the economy to lift, but we also have to make sure it makes a difference. I think it makes a marginal difference at the moment but we are definitely looking at masks and ppe and a whole range of issues around lifting lockdown. Can i also ask you about the summit, the conference later, on trying to find a vaccine. Yes, the government has been clear, as have governments around the world, that the only way of getting back to life as we knew it is through the development of an effective treatment or vaccine for covid 19. So there will be a Virtual Summit later today co hosted by Boris Johnson, with a number of countries, and the aim is to raise £g. 3 billion towards developing a vaccine and treatments internationally and getting people to pool resources so borisjohnson has confirmed the uk will put in £388 million towards that search for a vaccine and treatment. Other countries include canada, france, germany, italy, japan, south korea, and the european commission. Globally, some pretty glaring omissions. The us, russia and china will not be on the call. The idea is to get a global effort to try to Work Together to find a vaccine. President donald trump has said he believes america will have a vaccine for coronavirus by the end of the year. He said he had done a greatjob managing the pandemic, and dismissed claims he failed to act quickly enough. Our north america correspondent, david willis, has this report. That was a great man. In the shadow of the man who led america through the dark days of the civil war, donald trump, the self declared wartime president , sought to relaunch his president ial campaign with a steady stream of optimism about this countrys ability to bounce back from the coronavirus. We want to go back to work quickly, but safely. And that is what is happening. Next year, i think, well have a great economic year. Having hailed the development of an experimental antiviral drug called remdesivir to treat patients with covid 19, the president said a vaccine would be available earlier than his medical advisers have so far predicted. We think we are going to have a vaccine by the end of this year and we are pushing very hard. We are Building Supply lines now, we dont even have the final vaccine. Although some states are slowly reopening, they are not doing it quickly enough for some residents. President trump expressed sympathy for those who have protested lockdown orders in several states. Responding to claims he acted too slowly to stem the spread of the coronavirus, mr trump said his actions had saved thousands of lives. We should not lose one person over this. This should have been stopped in china. It should have been stopped. But if we didnt do it, the minimum we would have lost is a million, a million two, a million four, a million five thats the minimum. The president is not without his supporters, however. In florida, where marinas recently reopened to the public, hundreds of boats gathered near his winter retreat at mar a lago to stage a nautical parade. Mr trump is due to travel to arizona in the next few days, and he is not ruling out the possibility of Holding Election rallies in a few months time. David willis, bbc news. Italy is easing its National Lockdown today the worlds longest of the coronavirus pandemic. Takeaways and parks are reopening, funerals can resume and some businesses are restarting. It comes the day after the country registered its lowest daily number of coronavirus related deaths since its lockdown started two months ago. Heres our europe reporter gavin lee. Well, its interesting because, you know, for the italians to have, what, 17a deaths confirmed in the past 2a hours that is the lowest figure after the first day that the lockdown was in place. So going back it would be two months exactly this week and the r rate, this reproduction rate, the key rate of how many people are likely to pass on to how many other people, is less than one, so it means theyve got the level of contagion, the chance of passing it on, at an absolute minimum, where it needs to be. And so that means that people can leave their homes for the first time other than for things like food and medicine and can go around the region only to see family, not to see friends. Athletes can start training again. Funerals up to 15 people. Also spain, interesting this weekend, weve had those images of being a step ahead of italy, just with people able to leave the house. Boulevards in madrid were very busy. Weve also seen barcelona, for example, the coastal area where a lot of people were going for a run, but split lanes and times. So people, adults for example, and children some hours, and Vulnerable People and elderly people other. Worth saying whats going on in hungary today. The Prime Minister, viktor orban, saying that everything outside of budapest will open in terms of hotels, cafes, restaurants and bars. He says they have flattened the curve there. There have been 360 deaths, but epidemiologists say it hasnt reached the peak. And a quick point here in belgium, very slow restart today. Fabric stores reopen, nothing else. So the Prime Minister is saying that people can make face masks, essentially, ahead of next week, when all shops and stores will open. Hairdressers and barbers in germany are being allowed to reopen today, for the First Time Since the lockdown was imposed six weeks ago. Customers and staff will have to wear masks, and therell be no hot drinks or magazines on offer, because of the risk of infection. Many businesses say theyre booked up for weeks in advance. Were entering our seventh week of lockdown, and for most of us, life has been disrupted beyond recognition. As we wait to hear the governments strategy for eventually easing restrictions, many of us have been reflecting on our time at home, and our hopes for the future. Graham satchell has been hearing some of your stories. Superhuman girls. There is nothing they cant do. Six weeks of lockdown through the eyes of six different people. Nine year old bella has spent much of the time dancing. Shes also paid tribute to the nhs. What do you think of the doctors and nurses at the moment . Well, theyre amazing and theyre really super because, yeah, theyre true heroes and they really help right now. This week, well learn more about the governments plans to ease the lockdown. Will shops, businesses, schools, reopen . Bellas mum kirsty is nervous. I think we just sort of adapted to being at home now and the thought of going back to normality is quite daunting, really. This is bellas grandma, christine. Shes been busy volunteering, delivering food and prescriptions but she misses her grandchildren. They were here every day, every day, sometimes the four of them together, for tea. So the quietness now is. Is so different. Is it hard not being able to have physical contact . Thats the thing thats so strange about all this, isnt it . Yes, that is probably the hardest part is missing holding them, you know . And cwtching them, yeah. I had a bypass from my arteries to my femoral arteries, both. And ive taken medication thats been to make me vulnerable deemed to make me vulnerable because my immune system is lowered. Alfies been told he needs to shield for at least 12 weeks. Hes also missing his grandchildren. My granddaughters, as i see it, give me life. On a couple of occasions, ive seen them at a distance. We live on the top floor of a mansion block and ive looked down from our balcony and waved to them. So its time to get back to normal, is it . You think its time for people to start to get back to normal . Ijust think we need some degree of normality back in our lives. Im looking forward to the day when they say we dont need gloves, we dont need masks and we dont need to be overcautious. We havent left the house at all since the lockdown came in. In london, jack has no problem seeing his grandmother eileen. Theyre living together. I think weve had a few little run ins when it was bad weather. When youre locked inside and you cant get out. What do you mean by run ins . Me and nana going at each other. Arguments. Laughter. Eileen had major surgery injanuary, shes also nervous about lockdown restrictions being relaxed. I dont think im ready for that because im still vulnerable. I have nurses still coming in to dress my wound, so im very nervous about going out. Im not ready to go out. Jack is a professional chef. Give my area a clean. He worked in 5 star hotels in london but has been laid off. Hes been running a weekly live cook in online. Into the pot. I would love jack to have some break from me. And be able to go out. Break from you . Laughs. Just because i feel very guilty that he is locked down, but he wont do it. He wont go out. The risk versus the reward is, is not worth it at all. Delivery of sunday dinners. Back in south wales, christine has come to drop off some shopping and say hello from a safe distance. Thank you shes desperate to cuddle her grandchildren, but as a nurse of a0 years, she is also prepared to wait until she is told its safe. I think if people really understood how many people have lost their lives and been affected by this and how we could come back again, and be even worse, then thats enough of a reminder that we need to do this slowly. Its lovely, innit . Lots of different concerns from people. Graham satchell with that report. Lets speak to two people about how the next stages of lockdown could look for both the young and the old. From liverpool werejoined by head teacher andrew tremarco. And from london by former pensions minister, baroness ros altman. Good morning and thank you both for joining us. Baroness, there is a lot of concern about the over 70s and whats going on. Are you clear what the message is from the government . Well, im not absolutely clear. I would hope the government will clarify very quickly, but there does seem clarify very quickly, but there does seem to be some confusion as to whether the government is considering all over 70s as being clinically vulnerable and therefore advising them all to stay at home regardless of their health. Or whether its only people of any age, and obviously the over 70s might be more likely, that might have other medical conditions to make them vulnerable, who are being advised to totally self isolate. Thats really important. We have millions of people in that age group across the country who are very worried, who need clear guidance and understanding from the official advice so we know where we are. There are two things going on. Some people are very anxious and others seem people are very anxious and others seem to be concerned they will be treated differently from other age groups for example. Certainly i have been inundated with messages over the last few weeks, not just been inundated with messages over the last few weeks, notjust over the last few weeks, notjust over the last few weeks, notjust over the last day or so, but it has accelerated now, from furious over 70s who are fit and healthy and are concerned that the government might be considering discriminating against them on the basis purely of their age when it comes to easing their age when it comes to easing the lockdown. I certainly hope that is not the case. Ministers have been asked to rule it out and so far they havent done so. But i hope they will over the next day or so. Because obviously, if you desperately need to get out, but you accept it because everybody else is not allowed, if everyone has the same rules, then people will say thats acceptable. But if everyone else is allowed out and youre being told, sorry, because you are a certain age you are not allowed to have the personal freedom that we a lwa ys have the personal freedom that we always would normally expect in a democracy. In a free and fair democracy. In a free and fair democracy you wouldnt normally have the police or the government telling you whether or not you are allowed to leave the house. They can advise you, and of course people will be responsible, generally speaking, most of the over 70s, if they feel their health is not tiptop and dont wa nt to ta ke their health is not tiptop and dont want to take extra risk, will stay at home. Andrew is listening carefully to that as well. Lots of pa rents carefully to that as well. Lots of parents will be listening this morning. You have been looking after key workers at your school. What could a first day back looks like at your place and could you keep a distance between children . Your place and could you keep a distance between children7m your place and could you keep a distance between children . It is virtually impossible. At the moment we dont know what requirements would be. We dont know whether it would be. We dont know whether it would be. We dont know whether it would be part of classes or certain year groups yet. We are looking for guidance from the government as to what that might look like. The first day back will be very difficult. When we open the school gates we dont know what we will face. We have an idea of certain families who might have been affected by covid 19, but until the gates open we dont know. The first day back, well make sure the children are just in the school and safe and we provide them with opportunities to talk about some of their experiences during the time have been locked down. How long would you need to prepare as a school to be even able to open the gates . Thats really important, we couldnt just to open the gates . Thats really important, we couldntjust open the school gates now and expect the school gates now and expect the school would be what it was up to the tail end of march. The number of issues we need to address, we definitely have to make sure parents feel their children will be safe when they come into school. Its really important that i am able to reassure staff as well, we have 80 staff at our school so its important we have something in place to do that. We need time in order to put some things in place. I understand that the front line, the nhs and social care sector, need ppe, but so do we. Schools have children with intimate care plans and special School Settings have an awful lot of children that require gloves, not necessarily a mask, but certainly aprons. The government need to do it at a time when they have a supply chain in place so they can also support to schools, not just the nhs. Will come back to you on those practicalities. Baroness, i know you were listening in to the peace we played just before we came to you. Can you understand some of those watching this morning who are anxious about what life will look like when we get to the other side of lockdown, whenever that happens . 0f of lockdown, whenever that happens . Of course i can. I think there is enormous fear and concern about what is going to happen as we enter the next phase. We cant stay in lockdown, obviously we cant. We dont know how long it has to go on for. Clearly there is now enormous Spare Capacity in the nhs. Social ca re Spare Capacity in the nhs. Social care has been much more problematic, and care for the elderly is still an issue, but when it comes to the nhs there are thousands of spare beds in regular hospitals and also the brilliant work the government has done is setting up nightingale hospitals. So we have capacity if it is needed. The idea that we gradually ease the lockdown is really essential to get the country moving again. We cant live in suspended animation like this, but we have to do it fairly and not discriminate against particular groups as if they are all homogeneous. We are all individuals and we are not a nation that tells its population how to live its life, u nless its population how to live its life, unless perhaps people are at risk of going out and shooting people or terrorism or something. But in general people are allowed to go about their daily lives and a lot of people who are isolated are desperate to get out and back to a life that gives them the meaning that they had before. If you are an older person and you live on your own, your life revolved around exercise classes, community work, volunteering, maybe family, if you have it, and not all older people do have it, and not all older people do have family. And for them not to be allowed out is like a prison sentence, is how they have described it to me. They desperately, for their own mental well being and indeed for their physical well being, need to get back to some kind of normality and be trusted to be responsible, just like everybody else. Andrew, to pick up on that point. At both ends of the scale there are Mental Health issues. How important is it to try to get schools back and back safely . Its really important. I agree with the government that the best place for pupils is in school but we have to make sure it is safe for them to do it. At the moment, it would be great when they are back that we can utilise outdoor as well as indoor spaces. There are lots of things we can do with the children. Home learning for instance, lots of Different School websites have Different School websites have different activities so children can engage in active family activities, within the family home, getting them active with discussions and things. Our own pupils have sent examples of what they have been doing at home and we have had a weekly newsletter. There are lots of things to do to keep them active. Being in school, the best thing is they are able to see friends because thats the thing they probably have not had access to in the last seven weeks and at the moment we dont know how much longer that will be for. Exactly right, we dont know. Thank you to you both for joining dont know. Thank you to you both forjoining us this morning. Thats the thing my children are desperate for, their powers, and to be able to play with their friends. Their pals. They miss playing out in the park with them and messing about. Italy is easing its National Lockdown today the worlds longest of the coronavirus pandemic. Takeaways and parks are reopening, funerals can resume and some businesses are restarting. But the shutdown has left deep scars in a country with already serious economic problems, as our correspondent mark lowen reports. Italy is starting to reopen, but champion pizza maker teresa iorio cant. With new rules only allowing takeaway for now, she will need more time to adapt and, after eight weeks of lockdown, she has taken such a financial hit that her business will struggle to survive. Translation it would be better to die than not to reopen, because it would kill my dreams for which ive sacrificed my life. It would mean losing my livelihood because my life is my work. I open the shutters in the morning and this is money for my sister, my niece, for me to live. A city of pizza, of spirit, of tattered beauty and past glories has been pummelled by the worlds longest lockdown of the pandemic. We were taken to see one of the roughest parts of one of the eus poorest regions and, in a place where the mafia typically profits from poverty, theres a fear they are doing it again. Until about 10 years ago, this was a no go zone for police. Through the image of social decay, the security has improved here and yet this crisis has reawakened long standing concerns about organised crime preying on hardship and it is what many other property hit areas well other poverty hit areas well beyond italy could face too, as the lockdown leaves its scars. Carpenter raffaele tells me he has not worked in almost three months and may have to sell his television to get by. Theres been lots more crime since the lockdown, he says, even kids dealing drugs and stealing cars, since theres no work and they need to eat. Fighting the resurgence of the neapolitan mafia, the camorra, is this ngo, run by a priest, under police protection. They make up boxes of supplies for those in need, to stop criminal groups from stepping in instead. Translation the camorra is taking advantage of this current vacuum. They have always exploited italys moments of weakness and this is one of those moments. They provide help to people but then ask them to deal drugs in exchange or give them money. We have to give citizens the antibodies to defend themselves, to stop the camorra from reclaiming this territory. Singing. In the old town, musical solidarity, baskets hung to take donations from those who can, and give to those in need. A Health Crisis has become a social and economic one. The swansong of a lockdown that has halted the virus but wounded this country. Mark lowen, bbc news, naples. Ina in a moment we will speak to brighton striker glenn murray. Sally has been speaking to him about the potential return of the premier league. Also this morning. You might remember the remarkable story of nurse leona harris, whos been raising money to buy tablets to reconnect covid 19 patients with their loved ones. Well catch up with her and a family whove benefitted, in a few minutes. We hear from the boss of one of britains biggest home builders, Taylor Wimpey, about restarting work. Well meet again. Dont know where. Dont know when. And later, well bejoined by katherinejenkins, whos performing at a special behind closed doors concert at the Royal Albert Hall to mark ve day. All that still to come between now and nine oclock. First lets find out whats happening with the weather with matt. It will be dry and sunny and pleasa ntly warm it will be dry and sunny and pleasantly warm for this ve day. A lot of dry and bright weather this morning and a fair bit of clout to start with, some splashes of rain, but overall this week compared to last week we will see temperatures rise, it will turn warmer, windy for a time in southern areas in the coming days and not a lot of rain around. Todays rain is from the tail end of this weather front which is slowly pushing away with High Pressure building on. This weather system to the south west will bring heavy rain as we go into tomorrow. Most starting the day dry. Good parts of scotland, northern ireland, western england and wales. Misty and foggy dance and eastern areas with some splashes of rain at the moment and we will continue to see some even heavier showers this afternoon, the eastern counties of england most prone, especially around the wash, lincolnshire, parts of east anglia, most of you will start and finish the day dry. Always cool down the eastern coasts, 10 1a. In the sunshine, wales and the south west could get up to 20 celsius. This afternoon and overnight, showers and eastern areas will fade away. Most will be dry but the Channel Islands and devon and cornwall with heavy and devon and cornwall with heavy and potentially thundery rain on the way to take us into tomorrow morning. It will not be cold, 10 12. Elsewhere, a chilly night with frost possible anyway. A dry and sunny day tomorrow. Cloud in southern parts of england and wales. Heavy rain in the south west to begin with turning lighter and that could extend as far as hampshire, west sussex and parts of mid wales. A windy day down here and it will be cooler after seeing temperatures of 20 today, probably only 12 1a tomorrow. Further north, warmer than today with parts of the north west of england and scotland 17 or 18. Cooler down the eastern coast, but that will change as we head through the middle of the week with High Pressure becoming more dominant, weatherfronts with High Pressure becoming more dominant, weather fronts in with High Pressure becoming more dominant, weatherfronts in the south west fading. Still cloud in devon and cornwall in South West Wales and more especially ireland with showers drifting north but the wind will slowly ease down with more sunshine on wednesday. Blue skies elsewhere after a misty and foggy start for one or two mic, it will be a warmer day with temperatures widely in the mid to high teens if not lower 20s. Certainly not as chilly on the eastern coast. Getting warmer on thursday and friday with highs up to 23 in the south east corner. 19 and 20 across parts of scotland. But as we go through the weekend it will be a big turnaround, from shorts to warm jumpers, as by sunday we will see temperatures barely getting to double figures for many. But at least in the next few days it will get warmer. That is a dramatic drop hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. The government is looking at new rules to help businesses emerge from lockdown. Under draft proposals, employers would need to stagger start times and limit the amount of equipment that needs to be shared. Workplaces would also be asked to provide ppe if the two metre social distancing rules cant be observed. Companies, businesses and unions had until 10pm last night respond to the government plans. Donald trump has insisted hes done a great job managing the coronavirus pandemic in america, despite claims he failed to act quickly enough. Hes been taking questions from the public as part of a televised meeting on fox news. The president also said he believes the us will have a vaccine by the end of the year. His medical advisers say it could take 18 months before one is ready. People in italy will be allowed out of their homes for exercise or to visit relatives from today as the county begins to ease its lockdown. Takeaways and parks are reopening, funerals can resume and some businesses are restarting. It comes the day after the country registered its lowest daily number of coronavirus related deaths since its restrictions started two months ago. Last week on breakfast we spoke to nurse leona harris, who has raised thousands of pounds to buy tablets to connect her isolated covid 19 patients with theirfamilies. I know it is an interview that went down very well with you, didnt it . Well, since we last spoke shes raised another £28,000. Well speak to leona in a moment, but first lets take a look at the work shes doing. So ive been on a covid ward from day one and, you know, you know straightaway that theyre not allowed any visitors patients are not allowed visitors. So patients are at their most vulnerable and, you know, when youre like that you want your family and your friends around you, which is why i decided to start fundraising to raise money for ipads, tablets, so they could start facetiming and connect with family and friends. Hes stroking your face. Its wonderful work. Leona joins us now and we can also speak to julie and olivia, the wife and daughter of brendan, who we just saw using his tablet for the first time. Good morning, all, thank you so much for joining good morning, all, thank you so much forjoining us. Things have done pretty well since we last spoke to you, leona. How we tablets have you been able to get . Im blown away, i am absolutely blown away with peoples kindness and generosity. Its amazing, its absolutely fantastic. The funds started to come in. Straightaway we ordered a palette which is arriving tomorrow. Out of that pallet of 50, they have all gone, every single one has been allocated. Today we are going to put another order in for another pallet. I dont know what. Im just overwhelmed by how well this is going. Its making such a difference. It was lovely to have you on the programme. We have learnt over the years never to underestimate the power of bbc brea kfast. Underestimate the power of bbc breakfast. Its lovely to have such a positive reaction. I do still being used in the same way . Are you able to do everything you want to do at the moment . Everything you know, iam at the moment . Everything you know, i am inundated with people saying, please can we have one . We need one, we can really benefit. Ive been off work for two days and ive been donating ipads to intermediate care places, where people leave hospital but they need just a little bit more before they can go home. The response is overwhelming, honest to god. Julie, tell us a little bit about your husband, because he has had about your husband, because he has ha d a ccess about your husband, because he has had access to one of these tablets, hasnt he . Yes, he has. Hes been in a care home for a good few weeks now, due to the house waiting to be adapted. He has advanced parkinsons and not got a lot of nobility. His features his speech is not very good. When he got covid, we were obviously not able to see him, so that was difficult for the family. We got an ipad and i was able to see brendan for the first time and after three weeks in hospital it wasjust amazing. We are seeing the picture. I think it is of you and olivia. Olivia, how was it to be able to see your dad . It was amazing because i hadnt seen him in so long and i think it was the longest i had ever not seen him before. When you saw him able to see you, what was his reaction . He was stroking my face. Aww . Idont reaction . He was stroking my face. Aww . I dont know if you can say. Julia and olivia, we are watching leona react to you speaking to brendan. This is clearly why you are doing this, leona. Yeah. It brea ks are doing this, leona. Yeah. It breaks my heart. They are a family. They need to be together and this is what we are trying to achieve. The more it funds we can get, the more people we can connect like brendan and julie. I believe brendan is a massive fan of manchester united, he adores them, so if we can do something, that would be fantastic for him. It would be amazing. love, leona, that you go straight to the point. Julie, we have spoken to leona before and what is so striking, you may not have been able to be there with brendan in hospital, but people like leona really care for your husband. Yeah. The staff was amazing, i was on the phone every day, three times a day, just trying to get a bit of feedback. How he was, with not being able to see him. Done an absolutely amazing job. When do you think you will be able to get him home, how are things going . We are just waiting on everything ready to go with the house, ready to be built, but with the lockdown now, its just waiting for people to get back to work. Julie, give us a bit more of an idea. Being able to see him, olivia has talked about brendan stroking her face olivia has talked about brendan stroking herface on olivia has talked about brendan stroking her face on the olivia has talked about brendan stroking herface on the ipad, but being able to see him and communicate with him, does that reduce your anxiety, does it help you as much as it helps him . Oh, yeah, definitely. The first time seeing brendan, i hadnt seen him for about five weeks, when i saw him on the ipad, he was so overwhelmed to be able to see us. What must have been going on in his head, going on in hospital all that time, and having to be in a care home away from his family anyway, its just been absolutely amazing to get the ipad and be able to see him. Leona, what is amazing is that you saw a need and you managed to find a way around it, didnt you . Yeah. I mean, that was obvious from day one that patients were isolated and, you know, we have raised awareness now and its great because people are doing similar things stop there is a massive need for it and, you know, it is so rewarding. It is such a rewarding thing to do. I mean, i wouldnt have done it without fabulous people from your programme and the donations were fantastic. We have actually contacted a number of them because obviously it meant so much for them to donate, and we have asked them where they would like it to go, where they think it would benefit. So we are just waiting on the responses from them. We are in britain but we are Great Britain and we are Great Britain because it is full of great people can i just say, i lovely leon laughter we have got shown on the screen, but dont worry. Thanks for the thumbs up dont worry. Thanks for the thumbs upfor it dont worry. Thanks for the thumbs up for it leona, sean. I know you worked really closely with these patients but it obviously offers some comfort. Does it also help their recovery in some ways . Absolutely. It boosts morale for them. You know, they dont feel like they are just sat in a hospital bed. They can connect. It helps recovery. It is essential to recovery. They can connect. It helps recovery. It is essentialto recovery. Olivia, one last question. When you can see your dads smile, how did that make your dads smile, how did that make you feel . It made me so happy because it made me feel that even though he is going through a hard time, he is still being happy from seeing our faces. Its beautiful. Thank you both very much indeed. Julie, olivia, leona, it is wonderful to speak to you again. Thank you so much. Leona, i have texted my mate at manchester united, so if we can get something done, we will sort it. Essentially, we will do anything for you. Thanks very much. Sean made a surprise appearance. He is here to speak about lockdown and move to get out of it. If you wont see me around the office i will force myself into everything else. We have been talking about how on earth businesses come out of lockdown, what needs to be put in place by the government. We have seen draft proposals, it may be the two meet social distancing reels dont need to be put in place. If that was the case they would need to be other hygiene measures, protective equipment measures, and i talked about all this kind of stuff with Taylor Wimpey boss pete redfern. He runs our biggest house builder. They are starting to reopen sites today, only in small steps, having site members on site, not the whole shebang. They have a few questions and issues about why they cant just few questions and issues about why they cantjust go full few questions and issues about why they cant just go full throttle straightaway and he told me why that was. I think our feedback is clarity. In construction, there had been a suggestion that you could sort of have a small time limit within which you could sort of break the two metre rule, and that didnt feel right. Its very, very hard to implement clearly on site. Whereas saying, actually, if youve got the right ppe in place, then you can do a job closer than that, and it needs to be monitored and watched. Thats a process that can be managed and set out clearly and monitored, and people can get some confidence from. And so its not simple but its important, and we are used as a Construction Business we are used to having methods of work for everyjob that we do. So as long as its clear, we can work to it. Those pictures of construction we saw their wet ones from many months ago and that is what they are looking to get back to. Ppe is an issue of concern for Union Representing workers, they want to make sure businesses have what they need so workers feel safe and things are not rushed ahead just to get the economy going again. Even those chambers of commerce who represent businesses across the uk, they want to see from the government what steps they will put in place to ensure that companies can get the equipment that they want. We discussed with the boss of Taylor Wimpey about how they want to make sure that they dont encroach on taking equipment away from those that need it on the front line of our health and social care at the moment, as well. There are lots of things we need more detail on. It is expected over the course of this week from the government. Sean, thank you. Nice to see you twice in the last few minutes, just impping up twice in the last few minutes, just popping up in the middle of that previous interview. Lets catch up with sally and the sport. There is a difference of opinion going on. There is. Dont you think it is clever i popped up in the same box that sean popped up in his yellow magic of television. There is a real divide among the premier league clu bs divide among the premier league clubs at the moment. Top flight clubs have been told that using up to ten neutral stadiums will be the only way to complete the season. Brighton is one of the neutral venues being touted for the potential restart, and we can now speak to brighton forward glenn murray. Good morning to you. How are you . Im well, thank you, yourself . Really good, thank you. Great to see you. How much pressure do you feel you. How much pressure do you feel you might be under at the moment to get the season restarted . you might be under at the moment to get the season restarted . I think the only pressure we are really putting ourselves in is the pressure from the sport itself and the future commitments. The new season, the european championships, which is next summer, that has already been moved once. I feel they are the only pressures we have at the moment. Do you think it is realistic that clubs in this country will be back and playing within weeks . in this country will be back and playing within weeks . I mean, that remains to be seen. All i want to put across is the players point of view, really, that it needs to be in a sensible timeframe and need to be ina a sensible timeframe and need to be in a safe environment so the players and everyone that is involved in foot ball and everyone that is involved in football is able to reconvene. What you have seen of the plans so far, how safe would you feel . There is a lot of rumours going around and a lot of rumours going around and a lot of rumours going around and a lot of press releases but i feel as though, if we are to be locked up in a hotel for six weeks or eight weeks, or if we were to wear masks during training, that would suggest to me that it is not safe to play yet. So lets talk about the masks a bit. I have seen what you have said about the masks. There was a suggestion you would have to train and perhaps play in masks. That is surely not going to work. Well, if the hierarchy say it is going to work, it has to wait. I think it will be very off putting and frustrating for the players to be running around with masks on and trying to get your breath. It will not be as easy to catch your breath when you are doing a lot of work over 90 minutes. It will be a difficult one. What is it like in training for you now . Its been well documented that the brighton Training Ground is open. I think openis Training Ground is open. I think open isa Training Ground is open. I think open is a stretch of the term. The door i firmly locked. We go into training, we parked three spaces away from one another, there are only three people allowed at the Training Ground at any one time, and each of those three players has a pitch to themselves to run on. I would call it more of a safe space to exercise rather than an open Training Ground. Glenn, we have seen clu bs Training Ground. Glenn, we have seen clubs at the bottom end of the premier league, we have heard, seem to be less keen to restart the season and more keen for the season just to end with everyone where they are now, but what on earth would happen about relegation of the bottom three . Yeah, i mean, that is a difficult one. But if that was the case than then obviously you could use parachute payments for the lower leagues. For me, personally, i think it would be good to restart the leak and keep the integrity of it, but by doing so itsjust a time game, isnt it, ive went the new season can be knocked back to . Glenn, it is great to talk to you. Thank you very much indeed for your time. Into the macro interesting to get the perspective of the players. Thanks, sally. You have been doing a bit ofjoe wicks in the mining, havent you . In the morning. And in the evening, because you can save it. Glenn joins us now with his wife. Good morning to you both. I know you are and a deadline, so explain what has happened. You have hurt your arm, go on. I broke my arm five weeks ago andi on. I broke my arm five weeks ago and i had wires in my hand. Ive been doing the pa with no problems, but on friday, a really bad infection flared up, i spent two daysin infection flared up, i spent two days in hospital on morphine, codeine and liquid paracetamol and i texted my wife saying, i need help on monday morning. Here she is, mrs rosie wicks, my assistant. How do you feel about leading the nation in pe this morning . I am excited to be pa rt pe this morning . I am excited to be part of it. I would just be demonstrating the moves. He will still be telling me what to do and i will be demonstrating it because he needs to rest. I do, doctors orders. All the workouts have raised money for the nhs but spending two daysin money for the nhs but spending two days in an nhs hospital, being treated by people from scotland, ireland, iran, sri lanka, philippines. I felt so grateful. There are people all over the world coming together, looking after me andl coming together, looking after me and i keep saying, you walk into any hospital, the richest man in the world or the poorest man in town and there is someone to take care of you. We should be very proud, the nhs is not just you. We should be very proud, the nhs is notjust the system by the government, it is a community of people looking after and taking care of you. How much have we raised . £200,000. Rosie, you are doing well can you stop lifting your arm . I am worried about you the codeine is wearing off, it is so painful oh, god. Rosie, there is pressure. You are saying you are not nervous but a lot of people are watching. are saying you are not nervous but a lot of people are watching. I am a bit nervous but because i see him doing this every single day in our houseit doing this every single day in our house it is so normal. I kind of forget how many people will be watching it. I come down in the mooning and im in the living room and they are doing a work out. They have been doing it for a while. She said she will be by my side in sickness and in health. I am really excited. I think this will be the best work out yet. Tuning at 9am on youtube. It is in a few minutes. Anyone who does it at home, my kids love spotting the changes you make to the shelves. Rosie, do you get to adjust the shelves, or isjoe doing it . I came down and he had already done it but he keeps doing spot the difference. We have run out of things. We got hotels, qatar. You run out of ideas. Im getting things like bananas and avocados, it is ridiculous. Todays trivia will be history, so we have a different theme each week. Today will be history, tomorrow will be wildlife. Every day, a bit of education, a bit of silly fun and i am joined by the wife today. At least you know there isa wife today. At least you know there is a good hospital, rosie, if you need it laughter how long are you prepared to do this for . When will you be better . how long are you prepared to do this for . When will you be better . I put her on the spot two days ago. I have an open wound so that is very effective. The pain i was in, i was thinking, i cant let these people down. I needed to do this, so i thought the only way we can do it is if rosie demonstrates the exercises. I cant do much. Press ups, burpees, they will be demonstrated by rose. Please take care the nation needs you. I was driving to the hospital on friday at nearly crying. It was throbbing and throbbing. I had done a work out and i was miserable. When the adrenaline wore off. Rosie, it hasnt affected his ability to talk, hasnt affected his ability to talk, has it . Laughter im sorry, you go. Imjust standing here. I cant stop talking, sorry. Good luck we are going to let you go. We have things to do, we will let you go. Thank you. Byebye. £200,000, an amazing amount of money. When we do it in our house, my kids love it when he does his shout outs to everyone. Give us a shout outs to everyone. Give us a shout out i love it. 8 52am. Only once before in its 150 year history has the iconic Royal Albert Hall had to close its doors that was during world war ii. Now, once again, its doors are firmly shut. This friday, katherinejenkins will perform to an empty auditorium to mark ve day. Well speak to her in just a moment, but first heres a look back on some of the moments almost 75 years ago. Our gratitude to our splendid allies goes forth from all our hearts. Tomorrow will also be victory in europe day. Well meet again. Dont know where. Dont know when. Advance, britannia. Long live the cause of freedom. God save the king. Beautiful, isnt it . Were joined now by Katherine Jenkins, and the ceo of Royal Albert Hall, craig hassall. Thank you very much for spending a bit of time with us this morning. Katherine, we will come to you first. Ive seen the publicity picture, which is a single microphone with the whole of the Royal Albert Hall behind it. Will it be slightly weird and daunting for someone who has performed there so many times to so many thousands of people . Oh, it is my favourite venue in the entire world. I think when you do step out, it has this incredible wow factor. When the albert hall approached me, i was originally meant to be presenting the show there on ve day and that understandably had to be moved. When they approached me and said, would you consider doing this to an empty hall . We thought it was so important to mark this historic day and to basically give the best celebration that we could under the circumstances, so i think it will be really special. Craig, it is quite something because the thing about the albert hall, you dont even have to have been there. We can see on the tv how much atmosphere it has stop very much so because of the audience. It will be quite different. Quite different. We are used to having 5500 people there every night and we have been closed since the middle of march. I suppose having someone like Katherine Jenkins on stage is so fantastic. She is a huge fan of the hall, she is well known to audiences and not a stranger to the hole at all. We are thrilled, it will be amazing. Such a special occasion. It will be different, we will be speaking to vetera ns. Different, we will be speaking to veterans. We were organising street parties and had to change that ran an awful lot. It is so important to market in this way and in many ways across the uk. Yeah. Ive been involved with the 60th and 70th anniversary concerts and with this being 75, we alljust felt like we have to try to do something to market and sell it will be all things reminiscent of this time and of the celebrations that happened in the streets during this day. Presumably, craig, there are lots of things you have to think about, including an orchestra and social distancing. How does that work . M is really complicated. We have an amazing crew at the Royal Albert Hall. Even the backstage areas. It is really complicated to get people into the building and into dressing rooms, get lights and staging sorted, without touching each other or being close together. I must thank everyone involved, it has been amazing. The mayor of london has helped us. Its been extraordinary, lots of planning. Thanks to everyone involved. Can i ask you about Going Forward . We involved. Can i ask you about Going Forward . We are talking this week and expecting the government to announce on sunday some plans about eating a lot down. How do you think that will work in your environment, in the arts and in culture . Do you think you might be at the end of the queue . Yeah, im afraid so. We are pa rt of queue . Yeah, im afraid so. We are part of a very large sector. I am worried that the cultural venues will be the last to be able to open. It would be great to get some clarity from government on when we can open and when we open how we can open. Because of course we cannot open. Because of course we cannot open how we would normally open and so its a really difficult time for all of us across the sector. In cinemas, west end, theatres, concert halls, galleries. It is tricky, really tricky. Katherine, we are all being asked, and i am slightly more nervous about this than you would be, to have a big singalong to well meet again and it has such poignancy at the moment. Yeah, and i think the songs we resonate with people at the moment because it is so apt for now and there will also be a concert on the bbc at 8pm with her majesty speaking at 9pm. Her majesty the queen will give an address to the nation and we are hoping the people willjoin dame vera and myself to sing well meet again across the nation. We will not send it as beautifully as you but any advice for the rest of us mere mortals . Just enjoy it it is a very singable song. It is not challenging. Put your heart and soul into it and enjoy it, that is the most important thing about singing. Craig, louisa spoke about the special nature of the Royal Albert Hall and katherine has mentioned it. I watched from praise online and you get that sense of something we have missed out on for the last few weeks, that celebration of song and music in a place like that. Yeah, totally. We have tried to cover the cracks. We have tried to cover the cracks. We have artists singing from their living room. Alfie bell, rufus wainwright. That has been really popular. Having that as part of the Royal Albert Hall, but actually on stage, is probably the highlight so far. We are doing what we can. Katherinejenkins, we will all be joining in. Thank you so much. We will sing again, dont worry. That is offer us today. Breakfast will be back tomorrow morning from six. Enjoy the rest of your day. Goodbye. Hi, good morning, welcome to bbc news. Im victoria derbyshire. Here are the latest headlines. New rules proposed for the workplace as the government begins to plan how the uk can start to ease our coronavirus lockdown. Relaxing two metre social distancing, staggering shifts and more working for home are all being considered. At 9 15 well talk to a restaurant owner, the boss of a nursery and the ceo of an it company. And let me know how youre feeling about the prospect of returning to work